The witness accounts for 4 shots. Some time within that, he screamed for her and she did not answer. That leaves 4 shots unaccounted for, and no idea when they occurred.
Likely, the eye witness can't recall exactly what occurred. Because eye witness testimony is noted for being inaccurate.
''I see an officer there, with his gun out, standing by the steps. So I’m thinking, "Good, there’s a cop there,"' he told the Post.
At that point, he escaped, running and hiding behind a couch
I run out and I run toward where they are.'
He then saw officers fire twice more at Smith.
The cop needs to be fired & charged.......
And had the officer left and the bad guy murdered the woman, you would still be jumping on the bandwagon of blaming the police for her death. It really is too bad armchair QBs don't get paid as highly as the real thing.
Maybe we need to eliminate police completely. They are held up as more perfect than God professionals when they are imposing themselves on the rest of us but whine when we expect competent behavior from them. My job would be easy as falling off a stump if I were given the same latitude for 'good faith effort', pity parties for the difficulties of life, and 'investigations' that die of old age without resolving anything. Frank, if you had to live like the rest of the population you might understand.
Maybe we need to eliminate police completely. They are held up as more perfect than God professionals when they are imposing themselves on the rest of us but whine when we expect competent behavior from them. My job would be easy as falling off a stump if I were given the same latitude for 'good faith effort', pity parties for the difficulties of life, and 'investigations' that die of old age without resolving anything. Frank, if you had to live like the rest of the population you might understand.
Yup.......Thats rich. If I didn't think you were an arrogant person that I have no desire to be around I would gladly have you spend some time with me, both on-duty and off. Then you could see how I and the officers I work around really do "live like the rest of the population." We aren't perfect, we make mistakes. But the vast majority of us do what we think is right and in the best interest of the public, only to be **** on by people like you who don't do anything but sit behing a computer and MMQB every single thing we do.
So if someone shot at you, you'd suck it up for the hostages good?
Anyone in here calling out the cops for doing their job is an idiot. End of story.
The only person at fault in this entire scenario is the perp. Without his actions it never happens. Pretty simple to figure out, but apparently a bit too hard to grasp for the know-it-all keyboard commandos who have obviously never walked the walk, yet just love to talk the talk.
Thats rich. If I didn't think you were an arrogant person that I have no desire to be around I would gladly have you spend some time with me, both on-duty and off. Then you could see how I and the officers I work around really do "live like the rest of the population." We aren't perfect, we make mistakes. But the vast majority of us do what we think is right and in the best interest of the public, only to be **** on by people like you who don't do anything but sit behing a computer and MMQB every single thing we do.
Thats kind of the point of being a peace officer putting your life on the line for the good of others and if need be sacraficing your life
I don't believe the hate is personal at all, even if your name WAS specifically called out. It's the authority and system that you represent that is the real target (and/or problem). People are lashing out at your badges because they are all the same, even if the chests they are pinned to are all very different people. You are pressed into the mold of "big brother" by your association with the government, no matter how cool or professional you may be personally.
It would be a real experiment for you to actually take some of us on a few ride-alongs and have us report back here with what we have experienced. It should be an INGO event. Maybe it would open some eyes to have civilians come in here with new viewpoints based on what they are actually seeing from your vantage point.
I am critical of police myself, yet I know that I couldn't be one. A man needs to know himself, and I KNOW that I would be doing horrible things in very short order...... Not everyone should even try to be a cop. I don't have, or even WANT to have the resolve I believe it should take to be professional and to conduct myself the way I want our police to behave.
This is 100% the fault of the d-bag who grabbed a hostage when confronted by the police.
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Threatening to kill her. Check. Get him to move the gun away from her. Check. Points it at officer. Check. open fire on the guy. Check.
Really don't see what the officer could've done any differently? It's a sad situation regardless.
Shouldn't the second shot have been sufficient eanough seeing as he was hit with every round? Did the suspect even fire? Why dump a full clip when shooting toward friendly?.This guy was a previous ny cop for 10 years?hostility anyone?. Not trying to bash cop but I say he made bad judgment and took an innocent life
The civilian police aren't the military, and the military aren't civilian police.
Yes, as a matter of fact my opinion is based my FOF training courtesy of the US Army & having survived multiple tours in Iraq & Afghanistan "locking horns up close & personal" with the Muj for experience with life/death situations.
Btw, the Muj love to use human shields especially women & children. Doing the Death Blossom in these type of situations won't help.
Too much speculation going on here, based on press accounts. I keep expecting someone to bring up the grassy knoll.
I am also wondering, has anyone commented on four adults subdued by one felon. I'll throw another idea in the mix: if the students had had a gun in the house, and been trained to use it, the outcome might have been better.
Not meaning to blame the victim, but this seems like a classic illustration of the futility of relying on 911 to deal with violent criminals.
And how did Mr. Thug get his weapon? Isn't NY "SAFE" these days. The other day they arrested a dangerous felon for carrying 9 rounds in his "7 round" magazine... Whew, that was close!!
Thats kind of the point of being a peace officer putting your life on the line for the good of others and if need be sacraficing your life
Thats kind of the point of being a peace officer putting your life on the line for the good of others and if need be sacraficing your life