Hostage Shot By Police

[IndyDave1776]

I, for one, don't expect perfection. I would have been happy with the officer backing off if he didn't have a clean shot and setting up a better situation with additional assistance. I would have much more understanding with something not working out (i.e., the BG killing the hostage) while the officer was doing something constructive rather than opening fire without a clear shot. A siege may or may not have a better outcome, but likely no worst than shooting the hostage in the beginning.

 

[IndyDave1776]

If I die trying to protect someone else so be it, but it will be after a hell of a fight. I won't just lay down and die for anyone.

Nor should you! There is a significant difference between accepting danger and being suicidal.

 

[actaeon277]

I, for one, don't expect perfection. I would have been happy with the officer backing off if he didn't have a clean shot and setting up a better situation with additional assistance. I would have much more understanding with something not working out (i.e., the BG killing the hostage) while the officer was doing something constructive rather than opening fire without a clear shot. A siege may or may not have a better outcome, but likely no worst than shooting the hostage in the beginning.

Its have hard to know if he could back off. No diagram, measurements, photos, or anything.

 

[brew45]

but on tv, they always shoot them in the head the first time...

 

[IndyDave1776]

but on tv, they always shoot them in the head the first time...

Maybe we need to start sending actors to resolve hostage situations?

 

[actaeon277]

Maybe we need to start sending actors to resolve hostage situations?

 

[brew45]

Maybe we need to start sending actors to resolve hostage situations?

Might have turned out better for the hostage...

 

[IndyDave1776]

Might have turned out better for the hostage...

Not so sure that should be purple. It would be hard to get much worse than dead.

 

[brew45]

Not so sure that should be purple. It would be hard to get much worse than dead.

good call

 

[actaeon277]

Not so sure that should be purple. It would be hard to get much worse than dead.

Everything in life is a gamble.
There are no sure things.
So you would have to do the odds on an actor in a hostage situation,
or a police officer in a hostage situation.

Some actors might be better, but I'm thinking the odds wouldn't be in favor of the actor in a hostage situation.

 

[j706]

Absolutely unreal of how many guys come on here and act like they know what the heck they are talking about. In any ideal situation no one dies much less an innocent person. It appears the officer did what he though he had to do to save his life as well as the hostage. It don't get any more tragic than this. Sometimes you can do your best and it turns out wrong. It is the nature of the beast in dealing with armed criminals.

It would sure be nice if people that "think" they know would just be quite for once, and we all know who I am referring to and so does he since he seems to be suddenly absent.

FWIW I saw on FOX news where they said this officer is inconsolable. I can't even began to imagine.

 

[Mackey]

I, for one, don't expect perfection. I would have been happy with the officer backing off if he didn't have a clean shot and setting up a better situation with additional assistance. I would have much more understanding with something not working out (i.e., the BG killing the hostage) while the officer was doing something constructive rather than opening fire without a clear shot. A siege may or may not have a better outcome, but likely no worst than shooting the hostage in the beginning.

Agreed.

I can't imagine that in review of this situation, that the conclusion would be that this officer's actions were the best course to follow.

That being said, the officer probably had about 2 seconds to decide what to do. I feel sorry for all involved, but it won't hurt my feeling or sensibility if the cop was cleared of any wrong doing.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

*I would have much more understanding with something not working out (i.e., the BG killing the hostage) while the officer was doing something constructive rather than opening fire without a clear shot.

My ass. The same people that are vilifying the officer for opening fire would sure as **** have the same reaction had he just "retreated and left her there to die."

 

[public servant]

I've played thousands upon thousands of hours of Call of Duty and have never killed a hostage.

So I consider myself somewhat an expert on the subject.

 

[UncleMike]

My ass. The same people that are vilifying the officer for opening fire would sure as **** have the same reaction had he just "retreated and left her there to die."

Sure as Hell......
It must be great to be an all knowing "J.A.G. of INGO" and have the luxury of taking your sweet ass time deciding if the Officer in this, or ANY other situation, made the "right" move.
Especially since the facts haven't been fully divulged yet..

 

[atvdave]

My ass. The same people that are vilifying the officer for opening fire would sure as **** have the same reaction had he just "retreated and left her there to die."

This is a very true statment...

 

[cobber]

The Rule of INGO seems to be that whether the officers act, or don't act, they're wrong.



For a counterpoint, just think of the criticism of the police at Columbine, for not entering the school immediately and engaging the gunmen.



Hindsight is sooo 20/20.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

The Rule of INGO seems to be that whether the officers act, or don't act, they're wrong.



For a counterpoint, just think of the criticism of the police at Columbine, for not entering the school immediately and engaging the gunmen.



Hindsight is sooo 20/20.

Unfortunately the average patrol officer/deputy/trooper didn't receive "active shooter" training until after Columbine. Before then the SOP was to contain and wait for SWAT.

 

[jsharmon7]

I've played thousands upon thousands of hours of Call of Duty and have never killed a hostage.

So I consider myself somewhat an expert on the subject.

Please teach me your ways, sensei. The last time I was faced with a hostage situation, the airstrike I called in was a little too effective. Also, I need to know if I should ninja roll before I fire, or say something witty.

 

[jbombelli]

Please teach me your ways, sensei. The last time I was faced with a hostage situation, the airstrike I called in was a little too effective. Also, I need to know if I should ninja roll before I fire, or say something witty.

"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, aka The Rat.