Hostage Shot By Police

[Kirk Freeman]

If anyone needs evidence of why you should avoid a fight, this case is it.

Things go wrong, terribly wrong.

Remember, the police drip with qualifed immunity, you do not.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Even the military in a war zone have a rules of engagement that does not allow for them to fire until fired upon, correct?

No. That's stupid. Why would you put your life in the hands of the marksmanship of the enemy?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

If anyone needs evidence of why you should avoid a fight, this case is it.

Things go wrong, terribly wrong.

Remember, the police drip with qualifed immunity, you do not.

What would be your suggested course of action for the incident?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

For the officer? I don't know, I've only done this in training (and pray I never have to do it for real) and was not there. Course of action should have happened long before the incident and that is training and more training. The more they train, the less they shoot.

If you have to shoot, be magnificient. Hero and goat is a matter of centimeters.

 

[drillsgt]

Go ahead, be critical. You were obviously there and know exactly how things went down.

If that was being critical you're probably ready to blow a gasket based on what others have posted, it's okay.

 

[drillsgt]

Make up your mind rather than just spewing BS. Which is it?

Wow, I must have really riled you up to go through the effort of collecting all my posts. There was nothing contradictory in what I wrote. If this was a non-leo that defended himself against the BG and shot the hostage, in the end he would probably be okay as are most non-leo involved self-defense shootings. I'm just saying the media spin and reaction would have been different i'm sure.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

If that was being critical you're probably ready to blow a gasket based on what others have posted, it's okay.

No, I'm waiting for you to be critical. Don't hold back, tell us how things should have gone based on your eyewitness interpretation of the incident.

 

[UncleMike]

No, I'm waiting for you to be critical. Don't hold back, tell us how things should have gone based on your eyewitness interpretation of the incident.

 

[Smokepole]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyDave1776
The officer went home safe, so it's all good!

[quote Originally Posted by Meezer
The cop needs to be fired & charged.......
[/quote]

This was a sad situation for EVERYONE involved. My prayers are sent to both the family of the hostage as well as the Officer because he will live with a heavey burden of grief despite what some here type about LEO's..

For the critics here^^ and others to come. Are you that good that you know if and when you are ever involved in a self defense scenerio where you discharge your firearm that You would NEVER hit a bystander?

I notice that some have said the cop was reckless and/or should have left. The BG AIMED HIS GUN at the cop while holding his hostage as a shield. The cop has no way of knowing if/when the BG will pull the trigger. But if one is in the cops place, you MUST assume that since he is using a hostage as a shield and aims his gun at you he intends to shoot and you MUST respond. Or likely die. Many here follow the logic that "if your gun clears leather you better be prepared to use it". It logically follows that one subscribing to that philosophy MUST ASSUME that if a BG that pulls and aims a gun he INTENDS TO FIRE. You likely have only one choice.

For those that say that he could have just left, you weren't there. You have no idea if the BG trained the gun on him 2 minutes after the cop arrived or 10 seconds. Don't know if the BG blocked the point of egress or not. You weren't there, don't know.

And I wonder if not only will this guy have a heavy load to carry for the rest of his life, but one can only hope that he gets past it enough that if he faces a gun again with civilians near by that he doesn't hesitate and get shot and possibly killed. I feel sorry for all involved and prayers out to them.

Just my observations and $.02.

 

[drillsgt]

No, I'm waiting for you to be critical. Don't hold back, tell us how things should have gone based on your eyewitness interpretation of the incident.

I have no idea what your talking about and apparently neither do you I have barely posted in this thread and when I have I was supportive of the officer (see post #64 and #178) and what may have happened. When did I ever give the impression that I was there and knew what happened? I don't know if you have me confused with somebody else or what, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[drillsgt]

I can do popcorn too, this is fun.

 

[SERparacord]

I can do popcorn too, this is fun.

Upgrade.

 

[UncleMike]

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Damn......
That's good.

 

[Smokepole]

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Is that an Amish pizza??

 

[Smokepole]

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I think we should have a smilie eating bacon too. LOTS of BACON!!