WHYYYYY are you giving in to these .22lr gougers!?

[Kingpin]

Well I read all the post on this subject and now I don't know anymore than I did the last time I read 8 pages of post on this subject . Think I will go back out and reload some more 9mm maybe figure out how to reload 22lr ammo .

 

[youngda9]

Agree on the free brass...that's been a bummer.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Well I read all the post on this subject and now I don't know anymore than I did the last time I read 8 pages of post on this subject . Think I will go back out and reload some more 9mm maybe figure out how to reload 22lr ammo .

There was a thread on arfcom I read a long time ago about handloading .22lr (not reloading). Apparently at some time you COULD buy just the primed brass.

 

[XtremeVel]

According to INGOnomics, you have a duty to sell your ammo to others at no profit to protect the sport of shooting and getting kids interested in shooting. Because those things aren't worth $30 a box.

Oh, I don't have a problem with their argument... I'd sell the ammo for cost AND what I value my sacrifice at for giving up shooting for the duration of the shortage...

 

[shibumiseeker]

According to INGOnomics, you have a duty to sell your ammo to others at no profit to protect the sport of shooting and getting kids interested in shooting. Because those things aren't worth $30 a box.

I got yelled at last year when I was selling some brass at under current market rate (as per the normal places that did not have stock, not the wildly inflated gunbroker rates) but over the rate it had been prior to Sandy. Guy told me how terrible a person I was for asking for about 20% more than it had been 6 months previously. He "declined" to buy any from me. A couple of weeks later I saw his ad here for selling the same caliber brass for more than I had been selling it for. Another person on my "never do business with" list.

 

[hornadylnl]

I got yelled at last year when I was selling some brass at under current market rate (as per the normal places that did not have stock, not the wildly inflated gunbroker rates) but over the rate it had been prior to Sandy. Guy told me how terrible a person I was for asking for about 20% more than it had been 6 months previously. He "declined" to buy any from me. A couple of weeks later I saw his ad here for selling the same caliber brass for more than I had been selling it for. Another person on my "never do business with" list.

I get far more satisfaction out of not helping these people out than I get out of the few extra sheckels I could put in my pocket.

 

[1775usmarine]

Most rimfire stays on shelf.... Everything else, no worries... Haven't had too much problem getting the components to replace what we shoot...

One negative about range not being as busy... This past summer and fall I didn't come home with as much brass as usual....

Another example: I don't reload but pick up our brass and any other range brass. I could sell it and make some money. I would be in the same boat as gougers who buy ammo they don't use to make a profit. Sure I wouldn't charge more than market value, but still the same concept.

edit: Just seen the same thing posted 2 above.

 

[XtremeVel]

Another example: I don't reload but pick up our brass and any other range brass. I could sell it and make some money. I would be in the same boat as gougers who buy ammo they don't use to make a profit. Sure I wouldn't charge more than market value, but still the same concept.

edit: Just seen the same thing posted 2 above.

Wouldn't have any issues selling if you had no use for it.... Saying that though, the best option would be to start up loading your own.... Even reloaders aren't immune to these shortages, but the ability and components to load your own puts you ahead of those that don't...

 

[1775usmarine]

Wouldn't have any issues selling if you had no use for it.... Saying that though, the best option would be to start up loading your own.... Even reloaders aren't immune to these shortages, but the ability and components to load your own puts you ahead of those that don't...

Taking the profire class on sat.

 

[youngda9]

Wouldn't have any issues selling if you had no use for it.... Saying that though, the best option would be to start up loading your own.... Even reloaders aren't immune to these shortages, but the ability and components to load your own puts you ahead of those that don't...

Handling the peaks and scoring in the valleys since 1993.

 

[XtremeVel]

Taking the profire class on sat.

Great decision ! On both getting into loading your own and going to Profile...

I hear so many say they can afford to get into reloading... I don't understand how a person can afford not to.... If funds are that limited, just think about how much a person could " hoard " away for a given dollar amount if only buying bullets, powder, and primers and compare that to what you'd be putting back if buying factory loaded ammo.... For example, just how much cheap factory could I buy for $500.00 ? For the same $500.00, I could even buy cast bullets, powder and primers and load up 4000 rounds... The savings would even be greater if I casted my own.

 

[88GT]

No one is staying on point. If the gouging (scum) were not lined up to strip the shelves bare when the store opened , the ( out of luck ) scenario would not be EVEN CLOSE to as bad as it is right now. THIS is where the anger comes from...

Do not buy from them and the problem will be less but will not go away until the market cools down .

If you are out of luck and try to fill your I WANT-I WANT - I WANT with more dollars , you ARE the problem. ........just my 2 (common ) cents.

I think you're missing a point if you don't understand that the mere fact that one or two people can strip the shelves bare in a 10-minute timeframe is indicative of more than just what you perceive to be their greed. I've taken the last 3 of something at the grocery store before. Do you know why I can't make a profit on it? Because people know that it will be back on the shelves, in plenty, within hours. There is a practically limitless supply to replace what is purchased and people know it. Since neither condition exists for .22, the problem isn't greedy scum.

Saw the same thing in house prices in 2003 and 2004. Buyers were offering (bidding wars) more than list price to purchase a home because they knew that it could be a long time before the next home that met their criteria came on the market. In part. THere were other factors, some self-fulfilling, but by and large, the scarcity created a demand.

You will only lower prices on the ammo when the demand falls. And the demand will only fall when the scarcity returns to "normal." Which for most people means knowing that even if the shelf is empty today, it won't be tomorrow.

 

[youngda9]

You will only lower prices on the ammo when the demand falls. And the demand will only fall when the scarcity returns to "normal." Which for most people means knowing that even if the shelf is empty today, it won't be tomorrow.

Once Obama is out of office and we get a pro-gun conservative in there, the gun and ammo markets will return to normal.

One can dream, right?

 

[sb0]

Yet!

"It doesn't directly affect me at this time so it's ok."

Um, if there was, I'd be pretty much screwed whether or not you were offering me $25 tins of pellets or not, read my posts on the subject. As in actually read them and understand them.

 

[printcraft]

Um, if there was, I'd be pretty much screwed whether or not you were offering me $25 tins of pellets or not, read my posts on the subject. As in actually read them and understand them.

TL;DR

 

[Roscoe38]

There are three rules in life that I hold sacred.
1. Never kill any thing you are not going to eat. (mice, rats, and insects not included)
2. Never buy anything you aren't going to use or gift.
3. Never take advantage of your fellow man.
Life is so much easier when you have the respect of your peers. Obviously there are those on this board that really don't care what their peers think of them.
I wish them luck when they actually need something and one of these "entrepeneurs" charges them what you would call the American way.



Joe

 

[sb0]

TL;DR

That's quite a profound argument. I will have to concede this one.

 

[sb0]

There are three rules in life that I hold sacred.
1. Never kill any thing you are not going to eat. (mice, rats, and insects not included)
2. Never buy anything you aren't going to use or gift.
3. Never take advantage of your fellow man.
Life is so much easier when you have the respect of your peers. Obviously there are those on this board that really don't care what their peers think of them.
I wish them luck when they actually need something and one of these "entrepeneurs" charges them what you would call the American way.



Joe

Everything we buy every day is priced based on supply and demand. I don't feel too unlucky right now.

 

[lovemachine]

I wish I was smarter and stocked up when I had the chance. If I had enough ammo stockpiled, I'd be selling some at a higher price too.

And WHENEVER ammo becomes readily available again, I'm going to stock up like crazy. I'm going to be smart this time.

Right now, I don't need ammo, so I won't be buying any ammo that are priced high. But that doesn't mean I won't buy any that is reasonable priced.

And FYI, I'm getting sick of people whining about this topic.

 

[88GT]

There are three rules in life that I hold sacred.
1. Never kill any thing you are not going to eat. (mice, rats, and insects not included)
2. Never buy anything you aren't going to use or gift.
3. Never take advantage of your fellow man.
Life is so much easier when you have the respect of your peers. Obviously there are those on this board that really don't care what their peers think of them.
I wish them luck when they actually need something and one of these "entrepeneurs" charges them what you would call the American way.

What would "taking advantage of your fellow man" look like in this scenario?