CIVIL RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION: General Religious Discussion...

[foszoe]

Is marriage a mystery (a sacrament) or is it a ceremony? Are the spouses any different spiritually when they leave the church vs when they enter? Spiritually, legally, socially? How so?

What is the role of the people in attendance? Is it spiritual, legal, or social?

Apply the same questions to a civil ceremony, justice of the peace say... Are the answers any different?

 

[Dead Duck]

Is marriage a mystery (a sacrament) or is it a ceremony? Are the spouses any different spiritually when they leave the church vs when they enter? Spiritually, legally, socially? How so?

What is the role of the people in attendance? Is it spiritual, legal, or social?

Apply the same questions to a civil ceremony, justice of the peace say... Are the answers any different?

You misspelled Misery.

 

[foszoe]

Well said. Never entirely "there" but always more aware and moving closer.

Pretty radical message for most men.

"Stop trying. You can't do it on your own. You are weak. You need help."

But once God breaks your heart and reveals himself, no turning back.

1 Cointhians 16:4-12

Pay special attention to....

If it is fitting...it may be....whereever... hope to stay...if the Lord permits...if Timothy comes...strongly urged...however...

Words of a man who has totally submitted to God reading from the NKJV.

I find it interesting and chuckle at the Heading in my Bible..."Paul's Plans"

To me it should be "Paul's submission to God's plan!"

 

[foszoe]

You misspelled Misery.

If it's a misery it probably wasn't done right to begin with

It should however be a sacrifice, a willing sacrifice to each other....if it isn't it will become a misery.

 

[2A_Tom]

I realize that some of this is not acceptable to some, but G-d does not really care.

Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives beto their own husbands in every thing.
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

 

[Hoosierdood]

You too?!

https://babylonbee.com/news/baptist-kids-learn-exciting-account-jesus-turning-water-grape-juice/


https://babylonbee.com/news/bottle-of-welchs-grape-juice-discovered-near-site-of-last-supper/

You should have seen the uproar I caused when I brought two wine bottle corks to my fundamentalist Baptist school so I could perform a magic trick.

Im surprised they let you do a magic trick. My fundy Baptist school in northern Wisconsin would have had to set up counseling if someone brought in wine corks.

 

[JettaKnight]

Im surprised they let you do a magic trick. My fundy Baptist school in northern Wisconsin would have had to set up counseling if someone brought in wine corks.

It was 2nd grade. I was showing off at recess, and a teacher made a bee line toward me when she saw them in my hands.

My parents were informed, I don't recall how or what was said, but when we got home there was some eye rolling and concept of "not causing your weaker brother to stumble" was explained.

 

[T.Lex]

Wait.

Why did you trip your little brother?

The suspense is KILLING me!

 

[Hoosierdood]

It was 2nd grade. I was showing off at recess, and a teacher made a bee line toward me when she saw them in my hands.

My parents were informed, I don't recall how or what was said, but when we got home there was some eye rolling and concept of "not causing your weaker brother to stumble" was explained.

Ahhh, the old “don’t cause your brother to stumble.” That’s the trump card of all fundamental Baptists when they don’t want you to do something that they don’t like. If they can’t control you with doctrine, they will control you with guilt!

 

[breakingcontact]

1 Cointhians 16:4-12

Pay special attention to....

If it is fitting...it may be....whereever... hope to stay...if the Lord permits...if Timothy comes...strongly urged...however...

Words of a man who has totally submitted to God reading from the NKJV.

I find it interesting and chuckle at the Heading in my Bible..."Paul's Plans"

To me it should be "Paul's submission to God's plan!"

Like Drake says

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[ArcadiaGP]

Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to hand over evidence in sexual abuse case

 

[historian]

Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to hand over evidence in sexual abuse case

Haven't read the article/don't know the details. But as a general rule of thumb, the JWs are the canary in the coal mine for religious freedom. They are the reason the 1st A is as strong as it is here. They were about 90% of the test cases.

 

[T.Lex]

The article is short, and the interesting thing to me is that the prosecutor isn't challenging (according to the article) the JW's assertion of clergy privilege. The media outlet is the one drawing out the righteous indignation.

Totally in keeping with my faith tradition's reliance on Confession, I think the refusal to disclose the information is defensible. I would hope that the young man is counseled to repeat his admission to the secular authorities so as to be truly repentant.

 

[JettaKnight]

OK, was anyone else told as a kid that the peace sign was a cross with the arms broken? As if there's a secret anti-christ meaning?



For example: https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca & Witchcraft/peace_sign.htm

Seems the truth is actually rather boring: https://99percentinvisible.org/arti...aning-encoded-in-a-universal-symbol-of-peace/

 

[Hoosierdood]

OK, was anyone else told as a kid that the peace sign was a cross with the arms broken? As if there's a secret anti-christ meaning?



For example: https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca & Witchcraft/peace_sign.htm

Seems the truth is actually rather boring: https://99percentinvisible.org/arti...aning-encoded-in-a-universal-symbol-of-peace/

Yep, I remember being told that. I also remember that the Eagles Hotel California was Satanic, the movie theater was where teens go to hook up, and that dancing was just as bad as pre-marital sex. I should come up with a master list of these things. It would be hilarious.

 

[JettaKnight]

Ok, good, I wasn't the only one. Who else watched Hell's Bells? The anti- Rock n' Roll propaganda film by mullet-master Eric Holmburg?

[video=youtube;AKIQ7T-t_V4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKIQ7T-t_V4[/video]

 

[Hoosierdood]

Ok, good, I wasn't the only one. Who else watched Hell's Bells? The anti- Rock n' Roll propaganda film by mullet-master Eric Holmburg?

[video=youtube;AKIQ7T-t_V4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKIQ7T-t_V4[/video]

I can still picture my youth pastor wheeling in the cart with the TV on it and popping in the VHS tape of this video.

 

[T.Lex]

I never saw that because even if ya'all were right about something, we weren't allowed to know about it.

 

[2A_Tom]

OK, was anyone else told as a kid that the peace sign was a cross with the arms broken? As if there's a secret anti-christ meaning?



For example: https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca & Witchcraft/peace_sign.htm

Seems the truth is actually rather boring: https://99percentinvisible.org/arti...aning-encoded-in-a-universal-symbol-of-peace/

I never heard that, but was told it stood for Nuclear Disarmament.

 

[BugI02]

Thought about a new thread, but somehow this seems more appropriate. I seek diverse opinions. The circumstances under which I asked this question initially may have caused it to receive short (or curtailed) shrift

Can only a godly man do God's work?