2015 Legislative Session

[GodFearinGunTotin]

From IMAGC...Call to action:

IMAGC POST - for tonight (and tomorrow) -

LINK: https://www.facebook.com/IndianaMomsAgainstGunControl/posts/749796421778922

POST:
URGENT Update – 01-19-2015 AM – We need EVERYONE to PUSH if we are going to get the Legislation heard. ‪#‎ConstitutionalCarry‬ ‪#‎CampusCarry‬ ‪#‎SCC‬ ‪#‎2A‬
If the Pro 2A legislation is going to get to a hearing – we need you ALL involved NOW.

1st Priority is CALL and E-mail (or write) Rep. Dermody’s Office to support HB 1144 and HB 1143.
2nd Priority is to help someone else do the same; and then repeat it.
3rd priority is to spread the word – SHARE our post ANYWHERE and EVERYWHERE. It is about getting people involved; not about getting credit. We need to get this info to other gun forums, other groups on Facebook, or via e-mail. And People need to understand that Mr. Dermody is the key.

This is an update I was hoping would not be needed this session. We have it on good authority that Rep. Dermody (h20@iga.in.gov - 800-382-9841 or 317-232-9850) has stated his plans are:

“… that since this session we will be addressing the state's budget, he wants to focus on bills that have a fiscal impact … for any further questions relating to them being heard, you will have to ask the Chairman more about his decisions.” I am sure some of you have seen this statement.

Due to the limitations of Facebook’s formatting options, I cannot put as much emphasis on certain items in this post the way I would like. Reading between the lines, into the nature of politics, this is our understanding of what we know right now: Rep. Dermody has no intention of hearing the “Gun Legislation” (i.e. HB 1143, HB 1144, HB 1244, or HB 1494) this session because he does not think it is important enough or that enough people support the issue. Mr. Dermody (despite a high NRA rating) was also nearly the road block last session to several very positive step-stone legislative measures to restore and protect our rights.

What needs to be done? WE, each and every one of us, need to reach out and TELL Mr. Dermody how important these measures are to EVERY SINGLE gun owner, and 2nd Amendment supporter in the state. This MUST be done in POLITE, Factually Correct, non-intimidating, but FIRM manner. We need EVERYONE to help to send Letters (E-Mail, USPS snail mail), information via Social Media and via Telephone Calls to his office. We need to get EVERYONE on board. While repeated contacts from individuals show their commitment (keep calling!!!), we believe it would be more effective to get more people to contact him at least once (get more people involved!!!). You need to be the instrument to deliver the message to EVERYONE ELSE. Help a friend or neighbor. Help 2 or 3. Our role is to help each of you reach your neighbors, friends and family.

We have approximately 1 month until the final opportunity of this IGA Session (The last chance is probably Thursday Feb. 19) to get a hearing. The last day for a 3rd reading (last chance to pass the house) – is February 25. Until then or until we get other information, we URGE YOU to keep pushing; and we will keep you up to date. While each of you contacting YOUR representatives is good, it does not seem that they are going to be able to influence him on this. If you wish to write to Mr. Bosma, Speaker of the House, he might have more influence. It is therefore up to “WE THE PEOPLE” to accomplish this. I am sure Mr. Dermody’s staff keeps him informed of those volume of those who call and e-mail on issues – as well as how often; and this is why we need as many people to participate as possible. The more pressure we can bring to bear, the more likely it is that any of these 4 measures will heard (Especially HB 1144 and HB 1143) over the other 27 that are assigned to this committee.

To borrow from history – on the night of April 18, 1775 – 2 riders started out of Boston: Paul Revere, and William Dawes; Later that night, Dr. Prescott joined them. Between these 3 they managed to get the word out of Boston to Lexington and Concord. 79 men stood on Lexington Green at dawn on April 19. But by the following morning, riders that these men and others had sent out – had turned into a muster of about 14,000 patriots surrounding Boston. This is the kind of turnout we need to have to get this completed. BE INVOLVED!!!

We have been working on reviewing the other Pro-2A rights bills. I believe there is a good chance for some of these to be heard in the State Senate (and will have info shortly). However, these may run into the same road block in the house; if assigned to Mr. Dermody’s Committee. This is all the more reason to show him how important all of the bills are to all of us.

Thanks for the continued support. I hope to provide an updated sample letter as well.

--- BB3

Links:
HB 1143: https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/house/1143
HB 1144: https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/house/1144
House Public Policy Committee: https://iga.in.gov/legislat…/…/committees/public_policy_1600

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[brotherbill3]

I'm keeping tabs ... on the House PP committtee ... so far - they score "ZERO" IMO for "fiscal impact" per the "fiscal impact statements" provided with each bit of legislation.

Also Dermody is in the Red Star today ... and ... how did the House introduce another 180 bills on Tuesday? ... which included about 7 more to the House PP committee - mostly on alcohol and gambling. ...

ugh. ...

 

[brotherbill3]

I don't think I've seen this one mentioned or discussed:

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/senate/366#

Senate Bill 366

DIGEST

Prohibits a personal lines property or casualty insurer from taking certain actions in connection with the ownership, possession, or use of a firearm by an insurance applicant, insured, or household member.

SB 366 IS IN SENATE HEARING TODAY - 1/22 - 9 AM

Post w/ Sample Letter see IMAGC online ... short on time or I'd link / post it.

 

[Trigger Time]

I would like to see legalized and regulated prostitution in Indiana. I think we could pay for schools with the money. Or get rid of property taxes.

 

[pudly]

I would like to see legalized and regulated prostitution in Indiana. I think we could pay for schools with the money. Or get rid of property taxes.

Ummm... Does that have anything to do with the Legislation of the 2nd Amendment?

 

[Trigger Time]

Ummm... Does that have anything to do with the Legislation of the 2nd Amendment?

Yep because felons can't own guns

 

[Thor]

Because legalizing gambling/lotteries/pot has solved every states problems that have implemented them. Just an economical boon waiting for us to reap in the new taxes so we can buy everything we ever wanted. And I agree that this being a 2nd A topic is more than a bit of a stretch.

 

[Thor]

Also, it would just create another .gov bureaucracy to monitor and regulate funded by the fees. I'm sure the PSA's on supporting tax paying prostitutes would be something to see...and keep kids from seeing...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Bump.

Have you written and/or called your legislator lately? Again?

 

[rhinoabe]

I heard Senate bill 433 passed today . If so how long before it can be signed as law.

 

[downlinx]

I heard Senate bill 433 passed today . If so how long before it can be signed as law.

Right here is a story
Indiana Senate approves bill making short-barrel shotguns legal | Fox 59

 

[Trigger Time]

Well this would be nice!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If so how long before it can be signed as law.

Likely May before Pence signs it. It will be effective July 1.

Let's not count our chickens. Write and call your representative!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Will it be allowed for consideration on the House floor?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

From William "Bill" Dowden, ISRPA, Legislative Director:

Every Hoosier gunowner's friend in the Indiana General Assembly, Senator Jim Tomes,
successfully guided his "short-barrel shotgun" bill through the Senate -- it passed
44-6. It will now go to the House, where it will probably be sent to the Public
Policy Committee, which is chaired by Representative Tom Dermody (R - LaPorte). He
has repeatedly refused to hear any gun bills which are supported by the NRA; however, in
view of the strong support Senator Tomes garnered in the Senate, and with a lot
of members of the House wanting to vote for Tomes' bill, common sense says he should
hear and pass this bill. You all have received Mr. Dermody's contact
information, so you might want to contact his office and urge him to support Senator
Tomes.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

From our friends at IMAGC. If you haven't written or called Bosma/Demody/Your Rep, please do.

POST LINK to IMAGC latest w/ sample letter: https://www.facebook.com/IndianaMomsAgainstGunControl/posts/758798937545337

POST:

Feb 4 Draft Letter – IGA House Public Policy Comm. #NRA #GOA #SCC #CampusCarry #ConstitutionalCarry #2A


I sent (more or less) the sample letter below to Speaker Bosma and Representative Dermody, Chair of the House Public Policy Committee. Rep. Dermody is the key, but the most prevalent influence over his decision on what to hear within the House, would be the speaker.
Speaker Bosma: 800-382-9841 or 317-232-9677 -- h88@iga.in.gov --
Rep Dermody: 800-382-9841 or 317-232-9850 -- h20@iga.in.gov --

Time is nearly out; there are only 2 more weeks to get a hearing, and next week’s agenda has already been posted (and it is noted in the letter). We encourage you to voice your support for these bills; and to do so strongly, we also ask that you remain polite and on fact with the legislators and their staff members.

On a footnote from last evenings post: SB 433 “Shotguns” – did pass the senate with a vote of 44 to 6. It now moves to the House; and likely to the Public Policy Committee. Thus are need to continue to voice our cause there.

Thank you all for the support, and continued calls to legislators. Please continue to Like, Comment and Share our posts. You’re grass roots action is our greatest strength.

--- BB3


Sample Letter:


Mr. Dermody and Speaker Bosma,

I am writing again in support of and to urge your support of HB 1143, HB 1144, and the other 5 bills which protect and strengthen Hoosier's rights with regards to arms, and which are stuck waiting a hearing in the house Public Policy Committee.

I have read Mr. Dermody’s comments on his reasoning for not granting any of these matters a hearing in an article published by “Campus Reform” (link following signature); I have also heard similar statements via other on-line sources. In the article, Mr. Dermody is quoted stating that he was focusing on legislation from the summer interim study session and those with a “significant fiscal impact”. “Gaming” is the noted objective of the summer study session, yet only 1 of the 9 bills that have been or are on the schedule agenda through February 11, 2015 are related to this subject. The other 8 bills are all related to the sale of alcohol. A similar check on “fiscal impact”, by reviewing the fiscal impact statements filed with each bill on-line, shows that most of these are very limited to their anticipated fiscal impact.

Per my reading of these statements, the “net” impact fiscally, the balance between revenue and expenditures, for the state for most of the bills is that they will not generally provide a significant increase in revenue to a greater degree than the increase in expenditures to properly administer the changes. In several cases, the net gain in revenue is due to fines and violations. One would hope that “ideally” – there are no fines or violations, while knowing that some fines are going to occur. It seems that basing the state budgetary numbers on the estimate of fines and violations is inconsistent with the idea that most citizens are law abiding and it is also a bit like gaming, since this is not guaranteed income; unless the plan is to make everyone a criminal.

The political double-speak is the only “Gaming” I see occurring here, by not hearing HB 1143, in particular, or HB 1144 or the any of the other arms related measures. Your decision forces people to continue to gamble between their safety, their education and their career. What risk do they choose: the risk to go unarmed or the risk to end their career or education? We have seen repeatedly, that criminals will violate these policies; and even laws which limit ONLY the ability of the law abiding citizen to provide for their own safety. Safety, which is not the responsibility or liability of the state or the state agency to provide; as defined by the Supreme Court of the United States and other State’s in their jurisdictions.

HB 1143 should be nearly revenue neutral, provided policies are promptly changed, and enforced according to the state law. HB 1144 could cause some revenue loss to the state budget; yet I would ask: What other right protected by the Constitutions of both Indiana and the United States, must be purchased from the state to be exercised.

By not hearing these or any other legislation relating to arms, you almost appear afraid to lead and prepare for hard issues. To say that this legislation has not been vetted is also a poor excuse; it is nearly identical to legislation introduced several times over the last several years, both by Mr. Lucas, and by others before he began to serve.

There are 38 bills before this committee, 14 of which are alcohol bills; 11 of which are gaming; and 7 are related to arms. Yet of the 9 bills scheduled or heard thus far, 8 are related to minor revisions to the sales of alcohol. Please end the political gamesmanship and double talk. I urge you again to grant one of these measures, in particular HB 1143 and/or HB 1144, a hearing in the House Public Policy Committee before this session ends.

Thank you for your time and service to our great state.

Sincerely,
YOUR NAME
YOUR TOWN, INDIANA
Concerned Citizen;
Supporter of Indiana Moms Against Gun Control

Link to Campus Reform Article: Lawmaker wants to fight campus sexual assault with concealed carry

 

[BigMoose]

I am wondering if running gun bills thru the Senate might be a better future tatic to get around this Dermody RINO.

 

[brotherbill3]

I am wondering if running gun bills thru the Senate might be a better future tatic to get around this Dermody RINO.

SB 433 will probably go to the House Public Policy Committee, which is generally, where all gun bills are sent in the house. Dermody needs to hear from us on all of them ...

As does Bosma.

I heard they both may be down playing "controversial gun bills" to try to avdance the next stage of their careers. ...

 

[Yamadog35]

Anyone close to the process know any updates on these bills? Isn't this the last week to get heard in the proper House committee?

BTW, I did contact Rep. Dermody’s Office as noted in post #81

 

[brotherbill3]

More or less the only 2 bills still alive on firearms / rights issues are SB 433 and SB 98 ... no time for links SB 98 was a vehicle bill - but it is passed the senate - headed to the house.

Committee assignments for each of these not made yet.

everything else as a bill "on its own" is dead at this point - but "COULD" in theory I suppose - be added into the SB's during the house committee hearings ... in theory ... but not likely in practice


personally I am just hoping both of these get hearings where they are ass-signed (PP comm. Likely under Dermody).... and pass.