Voting 4 the Big o? Maybe...

[netsecurity]

I like your sig quote. Especially seeing as how he was a critical pusher of the Patriot Act.

What has the Partriot Act done to you to make you so angry? Maybe you've gotten your b@!!$ groped by TSA, but besides that? And how many terrorists have been stopped because of the necessary wiretapping and such? I don't get how this argument keeps coming up as treachery. Obama renewed the Patriot Act anyways, it is a temporary war time arrangement. Also, if you want to go to the next liberal talking point, waterboarding, I'll go ahead and address that--Obama stopped waterboarding and started outright murdering the terrorists on foreign soil with his 'kill lists', so which is worse?

 

[PINski1015]

How does Fascism have anything whatsoever to do with this? I KNOW what Fascism is--its strong arming and intimidating voters and bullying your way into power. *Cough* Sounds a lot like ACORN, Occupy Wall Street, and 'community organizing' to me. That's who you are backing, not Republicans. Republicans as a platform want smaller government, although I admit the Libertarian agenda is more authentic (and the Tea Party is bringing that to the Reps).

Look at the gun laws in states run by Democrats and you can see their party ideology in action. CHICAGO is where Obama came from, and his former Chief of Staff is the current Mayor. Again, Biden authored the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB). You refuse to look at facts and relevant recent history, instead repeat liberal talking points like a robot, and attack, attack, attack the only person that can remove Obama.

I've heard many people say that they want Obama in office to hasten our demise. I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that, because self destruction isn't reasonable at all to me.

I should clarify my own ideology: It is not the Democrat party that is the problem IMO, it is the LIBERAL agenda that they have adopted, that has hijacked their party. Liberal is a nice word for socialist, which is a nice word for communist .

Where have I ever pledged support for OWS or Acorn? He's a GUN BANNER which seems very difficult to grasp for you.

 

[PINski1015]

What has the Partriot Act done to you to make you so angry? Maybe you've gotten your b@!!$ groped by TSA, but besides that? And how many terrorists have been stopped because of the necessary wiretapping and such? I don't get how this argument keeps coming up as treachery. Obama renewed the Patriot Act anyways, it is a temporary war time arrangement. Also, if you want to go to the next liberal talking point, waterboarding, I'll go ahead and address that--Obama stopped waterboarding and started outright murdering the terrorists on foreign soil with his 'kill lists', so which is worse?

Read the 4th Amendment. It's gone because of The Patriot Act.

 

[dom1104]

Just dont vote. If you cant endorse either guy, then DONT ENDORSE EITHER GUY.

What is so hard to understand about this concept.

See, then you dont have to angst about it for 2 years prior to every election.

Elections and politics become a whole lot less of a factor in your life, and you are better off for it.

Do the right thing.

Dont vote.

 

[netsecurity]

Where have I ever pledged support for OWS or Acorn? He's a GUN BANNER which seems very difficult to grasp for you.

Yep, Romney copied the AWB that Vice President Biden wrote. You don't have a problem with Biden do you? I wonder why...

You guys all need to read a lot of Thomas Sowell. This guy is a real conservative, who was once a marxist, and he is brilliant.

Phase Line 'Birnam Wood': Thomas Sowell on Obama and Liberal Fascism

I'll say it again. This is not about Romney or Obama, it is about Conservatism or Liberalism. Read the article above if you still don't understand what liberalism is, then we can talk sensibly.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

But, but, the Libertarian Candidate hasn't broken 1 percent since 1980 and isn't likely to do so again any time soon.

So is it your stance that the libertarian candidates policies are less disireable than romneys policies? Or are you not voting for the libertarian candidate because you prefer romneys policies?

Are you not voting for another candidate because you believe the sheeple (masses) will be voting for romney, therfore, you have to as well?

 

[Classic Liberal]

What has the Partriot Act done to you to make you so angry? Maybe you've gotten your b@!!$ groped by TSA, but besides that? And how many terrorists have been stopped because of the necessary wiretapping and such? I don't get how this argument keeps coming up as treachery. Obama renewed the Patriot Act anyways, it is a temporary war time arrangement. Also, if you want to go to the next liberal talking point, waterboarding, I'll go ahead and address that--Obama stopped waterboarding and started outright murdering the terrorists on foreign soil with his 'kill lists', so which is worse?

Yep, he even kills American citizens. Hooray for the Patriot Act.

 

[PINski1015]

Yep, Romney copied the AWB that Vice President Biden wrote. You don't have a problem with Biden do you? I wonder why...

You guys all need to read a lot of Thomas Sowell. This guy is a real conservative, who was once a marxist, and he is brilliant.

Phase Line 'Birnam Wood': Thomas Sowell on Obama and Liberal Fascism

I'll say it again. This is not about Romney or Obama, it is about Conservatism or Liberalism. Read the article above if you still don't understand what liberalism is, then we can talk sensibly.

I don't like Obama or Biden. Between the 2 candidates this year it is choosing between Fascism and Socialism either way freedom gets taken in the rear. Because he's not Obama isn't a relevant argument which you just proved by saying Romney copied Biden's gun ban.

 

[Wreaver]

What has the Partriot Act done to you to make you so angry? Maybe you've gotten your b@!!$ groped by TSA, but besides that? And how many terrorists have been stopped because of the necessary wiretapping and such? I don't get how this argument keeps coming up as treachery. Obama renewed the Patriot Act anyways, it is a temporary war time arrangement. Also, if you want to go to the next liberal talking point, waterboarding, I'll go ahead and address that--Obama stopped waterboarding and started outright murdering the terrorists on foreign soil with his 'kill lists', so which is worse?

 

[Caleb]

I still have love for you Caleb! If the politicians would just start listening to "We the People" who elected them the country would not be in nearly the shape it is now.

As for some who just want republican control and want the democrats out completely wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a two party republic and make it the same as a dictatorship or communism? There would be no real opposition to anything or no checks and balances on that case? Just a wondering thought!

It is true that he did not work toward the repeal of bad laws, but unlike Bush Jr., he never had a friendly congress. By the time of the Brady act, he was out of office and not mentally sound. No, we need someone of far greater fortitude in order to get a meaningful change, but I have to give the man credit for growing in the right direction as opposed to being more like T. Kennedy, R. Lugar, and others who, if anything, got worse with age.

I don't like Obama or Biden. Choosing Between the 2 candidates this year is choosing between Fascism and Socialism. Because he's not Obama isn't a relevant argument which you just proved by saying Romney copied Biden's gun ban.

I dislike Biden, Obama, and Romney...and all those other clowns!

 

[netsecurity]

Yep, he even kills American citizens. Hooray for the Patriot Act.

Where does the Patriot Act allow kill lists?



Eric Holder may interpret the Patriot Act to grant this authority, but Bush never did that I know of. So why aren't you angry at Holder/Obama? Why is all the anger always at Republicans...oh wait, what you're really mad about is Iraq still isn't it? Get over it, it happened. And yes, we are at war, no matter how much you don't like it. 9-11 actually happened, it wasn't a conspiracy by "Fascist Republicans".

And again, Republicans are anything but Fascist. Read PLEASE:
http://plbirnamwood.blogspot.com/2012/06/test-marker.html

 

[Caleb]

Where does the Patriot Act allow kill lists?



Eric Holder may interpret the Patriot Act to grant this authority, but Bush never did that I know of. So why aren't you angry at Holder/Obama? Why is all the anger always at Republicans...oh wait, what you're really mad about is Iraq still isn't it? Get over it, it happened. And yes, we are at war, no matter how much you don't like it. 9-11 actually happened, it wasn't a conspiracy by "Fascist Republicans".

I have to agree with this

 

[Expat]

So is it your stance that the libertarian candidates policies are less disireable than romneys policies? Or are you not voting for the libertarian candidate because you prefer romneys policies?

Are you not voting for another candidate because you believe the sheeple (masses) will be voting for romney, therfore, you have to as well?

It is my "stance" that in any realistic way you look at it, it is a two person race. That is the real world where adults have to live. Voting for anyone but those two is the same as not voting in any real practical sense. If there was an election fairy that could make the Libertarian candidate competitive, I would most happily support him over the two not so wonderful choices that we have. But once again, grown ups understand there is no election fairy.

 

[PINski1015]

Where does the Patriot Act allow kill lists?



Eric Holder may interpret the Patriot Act to grant this authority, but Bush never did that I know of. So why aren't you angry at Holder/Obama? Why is all the anger always at Republicans...oh wait, what you're really mad about is Iraq still isn't it? Get over it, it happened. And yes, we are at war, no matter how much you don't like it. 9-11 actually happened, it wasn't a conspiracy by "Fascist Republicans".

And again, Republicans are anything but Fascist. Read PLEASE:
Phase Line 'Birnam Wood': Thomas Sowell on Obama and Liberal Fascism

I suppose the 4th amendment has no meaning to you. Why the anger at REpubs? You parade them as the solution when they ignore the constitution. Basically what I get from reading your posts is that freedom can be infringed upon during war time and your fine with that little less freedom so you can sleep well at night knowing the Gov will protect you.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

What has the Partriot Act done to you to make you so angry? Maybe you've gotten your b@!!$ groped by TSA, but besides that? Isnt that enough? If not, where do you draw the line?


Obama renewed the Patriot Act anyways, it is a temporary war time arrangement. A temparary loss of liberty is not ok. It means it was never there to start with. A rape is temparary also.

 

[PINski1015]

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- Ben Franklin

 

[IndyDave1776]

But, but, the Libertarian Candidate hasn't broken 1 percent since 1980 and isn't likely to do so again any time soon.

This is true, but never before have we been confronted with a situation in which the Democrat and Republican were so remarkably similar. As it has been said, there is a first time for everything, and at such a time that people don't see anything to lose with the risk of 'throwing away their vote' the third party has a realistic chance that never existed previously. The herculean efforts of an administrative nature required to suppress Ron Paul speak volumes of the ambient state of being fed up.

 

[Classic Liberal]

Where does the Patriot Act allow kill lists?



Eric Holder may interpret the Patriot Act to grant this authority, but Bush never did that I know of. So why aren't you angry at Holder/Obama? Why is all the anger always at Republicans...oh wait, what you're really mad about is Iraq still isn't it? Get over it, it happened. And yes, we are at war, no matter how much you don't like it. 9-11 actually happened, it wasn't a conspiracy by "Fascist Republicans".

And again, Republicans are anything but Fascist. Read PLEASE:
Phase Line 'Birnam Wood': Thomas Sowell on Obama and Liberal Fascism

My anger is at both sides of fascism, Dems and Repubs. Repubs enacted the Patriot Act, so do we ignore all of the rights it violated at the time of signing or only at the additional violations once the Dems took over? Fascism is fascism regardless of who's at the helm.

 

[hornadylnl]

What has the Partriot Act done to you to make you so angry? Maybe you've gotten your b@!!$ groped by TSA, but besides that? And how many terrorists have been stopped because of the necessary wiretapping and such? I don't get how this argument keeps coming up as treachery. Obama renewed the Patriot Act anyways, it is a temporary war time arrangement. Also, if you want to go to the next liberal talking point, waterboarding, I'll go ahead and address that--Obama stopped waterboarding and started outright murdering the terrorists on foreign soil with his 'kill lists', so which is worse?

Repubs like you are why there won't be a single check mark in the repub column of my ballot this November.

 

[IndyDave1776]

My anger is at both sides of fascism, Dems and Repubs. Repubs enacted the Patriot Act, so do we ignore all of the rights it violated at the time of signing or only at the additional violations once the Dems took over? Fascism is fascism regardless of who's at the helm.

Is this somewhat like asking whether you prefer being shot with a Colt or a Smith and Wesson?