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    spec4

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    netsecurity makes a lot of sense. The perfect candidate isn't out there and likely, never will be. Through our lives we make a lot of compromises; homes, cars, spouses (ha!!), guns (sometimes), jobs, etc. I will compromise and vote for a man who, though he has his baggage, is head and shoulders above the community organizer. Those who say there's no difference, well, they just don't understand Chicago politics. I'll leave it at that.
     

    KLB

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    this-says-it-all-obama-dedt-more-than-all-us-presidents-combined.jpg


    btw we are at 15.8 T right now in debt so this image is already off.
    U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

    Biggest problem with this is that the Congress controls the money, not the President. The President can only ask.
     

    mrjarrell

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    I did not say you should vote for O or R or anyone else. Just stating that I'm leaning towards voting for O myself at this point as I saw lets just get this train wreck that we all know is coming sooner rather than later.
    My post wasn't addressed towards you. It was to the Obamney cadre. They're convinced that voting for a known gun banner is the way to go.
     

    Kmcinnes

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    Anyone who says they believe in their candidate 100% is a fool. Bacon, on the other hand....

    you are 100% right, but the problem is both parties are continually making the wrong choices and leading the country in the wrong direction. They do not listen to their constituents, the only listen to the lobbyist that line their pockets. If you don't believe me try debating something with your representative on a party line issue and listen to him or her not answer and dodge your questions, or send your representative a letter or email and wait for the standard generalized response that is sent to everyone. Come on people...we get so worked up over party lines that it is pathetic, and sadly that is what they want! They divide us as liberals/conservatives because they know that with that divide no one will stand up together and shut them down, I would say vote them out but the newbies running are no better, we need patriots rather than democrats or republicans, we need people who will actually stand up for the Constitution rather than distort it in order for it to fill their needs and we need someone who come hell or high water will stand on their convictions and stay true to what they believe! Neither candidate is worthy of my vote or yours and its unfortunate that we cant have the NONE OF THE ABOVE option on the ballot where you can write in your personal choice if it is neither of the two. I fear that if Romney is the conservatives choice the dems. will get a 2nd term in the WH. I can tell you this....I sure as hell do not trust Romney, We want jobs coming back to America not leaving, We want someone who will actually support our right to bear arms, and the list goes on. We are at a point that compromising and choosing the lesser of the two evils is No longer a choice!
     

    teddy12b

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    Me entire life I've voted mostly straight card "R" party and I have been part of the problem. I am ashamed of that and consider it an irresponsible blemish on my soul. This election I will not vote for Obama or Romney. If Ron Paul is not my option than Johnson may be the next best thing.

    I think Obama's got his second term wrapped up. Any debate between him and Romney will result in the two looking more alike than different. I don't have high hopes for the future of my country, but I have every intention of being able to say in front of my maker someday that I voted for the person who I thought was going to do the right thing. Having studied and understood some libertarian principles I feel like it'd be immoral for me to vote for any other party.
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Biggest problem with this is that the Congress controls the money, not the President. The President can only ask.

    I see one significant flaw in this statement. While Congress is indeed responsible for passing a budget and authorizing spending, one frequently overlooked power of the president is that he can stop spending dead in its track by simply not cutting the check. Funny thins is the rarity with which this happens. It is much more fun to do things like provide over half a billion dollars to Solyndra (as the IRS shakes people down for pocket change). Instead of employing this final check against out of control spending, Barry indulges like a drunken sailor. Mitt has already said that (aside from his new-found opposition to government health care) he does not intend to significantly reduce spending.
     

    Classic Liberal

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    They are all crooks, dems and reps. I dont vote party lines, I vote on the issues and I have no freaking idea where Romney stands on any issues. The repubs are absolutly stupid for allowing him to run against Obama because he is exactly the same? How can he run against the healthcare deal when it is almost word for word his. CROOKS that take away our rights.......Proof..... Bushes Patriot Act!

    Proof of where Romney stands!

    http://youtu.be/SBr5zPW4o7s

    And we have plenty on here that will try to seal the fate of all Americans by voting for this dickcheese. :patriot:
     

    KLB

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    I see one significant flaw in this statement. While Congress is indeed responsible for passing a budget and authorizing spending, one frequently overlooked power of the president is that he can stop spending dead in its track by simply not cutting the check. Funny thins is the rarity with which this happens. It is much more fun to do things like provide over half a billion dollars to Solyndra (as the IRS shakes people down for pocket change). Instead of employing this final check against out of control spending, Barry indulges like a drunken sailor. Mitt has already said that (aside from his new-found opposition to government health care) he does not intend to significantly reduce spending.
    True. But you cannot blame the President for the spending being so high, when all he can do is approve it. The last two years it has been a Republican controlled house blowing money at such outrageous rates, just as the Democratically controlled house did before it.

    There have been few Presidents that won't sign off on whatever the Congress wants to spend.
     

    netsecurity

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    I will vote for Romney because he is Republican, and can at least work with the Republican congress, AND because he is the ONLY one that can replace Obama in 2012. I don't care if he came from liberal Massachusetts, because at least he isn't a member of the Democrat party, which has become the Socialist party in every possible way. I'm not voting for Romney personally, just like I'm not voting against Obama personally, IT IS ABOUT THE PARTY.

    If you listen to Pelosi, Reed, and the wacko Democrat talking points daily like I do, and don't see that they are ANTI-AMERICAN, carrying member of the communist party, then I think you are severely mentally challenged.

    Before 9-11 the Democrats used to be more moderate I thought. But now they hate American flags, love to insert racism into everything, focus all of their energies on gays and minorities, despise Christianity, while forcing despicably ignorant Politically Correctness down our throats, without giving a whistling fart about average Americans, or preserving the culture of America. The current Democrats in office want to remove the pledge of allegiance (already succeeded), take away your right to choose what soda you drink, vet rid of Christmas, shut down coal power plants that drive our economy, and raise your taxes so they can use your tax money to buy votes from illegal immigrants, and much more crap like that which makes my stomach turn in anger.

    So, IMO every single one of us that votes for Obama, or does not vote Democrats out of EVERY office, should reconsider your country of citizenship. If you hate America as much as the current Democrat party, then go live somewhere else. What made America great was hard work, free enterprise and mass production. If you want to destroy capitalism then vote in a Democrat, but don't expect the country to ever be great again, and enjoy the downward spiral.
     

    Classic Liberal

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    Proof of where Romney stands!

    http://youtu.be/SBr5zPW4o7s

    I will vote for Romney because he is Republican, and can at least work with the Republican congress, AND because he is the ONLY one that can replace Obama in 2012. I don't care if he came from liberal Massachusetts, because at least he isn't a member of the Democrat party, which has become the Socialist party in every possible way. I'm not voting for Romney personally, just like I'm not voting against Obama personally, IT IS ABOUT THE PARTY.

    If you listen to Pelosi, Reed, and the wacko Democrat talking points daily like I do, and don't see that they are ANTI-AMERICAN, carrying member of the communist party, then I think you are severely mentally challenged.

    Before 9-11 the Democrats used to be more moderate I thought. But now they hate American flags, love to insert racism into everything, focus all of their energies on gays and minorities, despise Christianity, while forcing despicably ignorant Politically Correctness down our throats, without giving a whistling fart about average Americans, or preserving the culture of America. The current Democrats in office want to remove the pledge of allegiance (already succeeded), take away your right to choose what soda you drink, vet rid of Christmas, shut down coal power plants that drive our economy, and raise your taxes so they can use your tax money to buy votes from illegal immigrants, and much more crap like that which makes my stomach turn in anger.

    So, IMO every single one of us that votes for Obama, or does not vote Democrats out of EVERY office, should reconsider your country of citizenship. If you hate America as much as the current Democrat party, then go live somewhere else. What made America great was hard work, free enterprise and mass production. If you want to destroy capitalism then vote in a Democrat, but don't expect the country to ever be great again, and enjoy the downward spiral.

    How can you ignore the "Democrat" in Romney. A silly (D) or (R) mean nothing, unless you are a sheep. Voting for Romney puts you in the same camp as Democrat voters, IMHO.
     

    netsecurity

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    When did Obamney say he was going to get rid of Obamacare in totality? His plan is to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Romneycare. He's already said it. "Repeal and replace". That's what he's running on. He likes the individual mandate. And he's a proven gun banner. How do you guys wrap your heads around that? There's nothing that can make me vote for a known gun banner. Ever. I'm like Anonymous in that regard. Never forget. Never forgive.


    Mitt Romney is ONE GUY who signed obviously bad laws. The Democratic party is an entire party DEDICATED to removing guns completely.

    Not only the freedom to bear arms is at risk though. Socialism includes all types of restrictions on liberty, like telling our children what they can eat at school lunch, deciding what healthcare services we receive, banning sugar or large sodas, and the list goes on forever. It is rarely Republicans that come up with frivolous laws like a large soda ban, but almost always Democrats, because they are the ones who are arrogant and elitist enough to think they they know better.

    Think long and hard about who you are supporting when you put down Romney.

    Oh, and P.S. -- Biden actually WROTE the AWB in 1994. So you'd rather he stay in power? And how many anti-gun laws have Dems wrote in the last 30 years vs. Reps, I'd be real interested to see those statistics!
     
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    Caleb

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    Romney has one advantage over Obama, and that's the fact that he actually knows how to run a business to some degree...where is Ronald Reagan when you need him.
     

    rambone

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    Just stating that I'm leaning towards voting for O myself at this point as I saw lets just get this train wreck that we all know is coming sooner rather than later.
    Never underestimate the destructive power of a neocon president + a friendly neocon congress.
     

    hornadylnl

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    Mitt Romney is ONE GUY who signed obviously bad laws. The Democratic party is an entire party DEDICATED to removing guns completely.

    Not only the freedom to bear arms is at risk though. Socialism includes all types of restrictions on liberty, like telling our children what they can eat at school lunch, deciding what healthcare services we receive, banning sugar or large sodas, and the list goes on forever. It is rarely Republicans that come up with frivolous laws like a large soda ban, but almost always Democrats, because they are the ones who are arrogant and elitist enough to think they they know better.

    Think long and hard about who you are supporting when you put down Romney.

    Oh, and P.S. -- Biden actually WROTE the AWB in 1994. So you'd rather he stay in power? And how many anti-gun laws have Dems wrote in the last 30 years vs. Reps, I'd be real interested to see those statistics!

    Think long and hard what you're supporting when you support Romney.
     

    mrjarrell

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    Romney has one advantage over Obama, and that's the fact that he actually knows how to run a business to some degree...where is Ronald Reagan when you need him.
    Yes, but what kind of business? Bain frequently bought US companies and deconstructed them. Firing the employees, selling off the assets and shipping the jobs off to China and other countries. What would he be willing to outsource as POTUS?
     

    Kmcinnes

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    Romney has one advantage over Obama, and that's the fact that he actually knows how to run a business to some degree...where is Ronald Reagan when you need him.

    Ask that same question to employees whose company's were dissolved and or jobs sent overseas under Romneys stint at Bain! He's not the business man you think he is! Romney Unfortunatly is a follower not a leader!
     
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