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    Denny347

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    please, there is the Civil religious thread for Christianity that you should visit. ill educate you there
    Just say'n. They are just as convinced they are right as you are. You know you are right and they know they are right. Unless Islam goes through a reformation, this will never end.
     

    oldpink

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    Killing people that don't believe in your religion is right?

    Come on now.

    Maybe if we invite a few million more over, even though we know next to nothing about their history, then allow them to join the mindset of covert warriors behind enemy lines awaiting their marching orders, right?
     

    ghuns

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    In all the recent related threads, I hear a lot of, "Muslims are bad", "Islam is bad", etc. Maybe they are. Maybe it is.

    What I don't hear is what exactly we should do about it. People with such strong opinions about what the problem is, surely have strong opinions about the solution.

    So what are they?:dunno:
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Gen. Patton knew what to do.

    But his job was a lot easier with a well defined enemy in his face.

    Chasing cockroaches and eliminating the nest is so much more difficult.

    Patton once said (paraphrasing), "Nobody ever won a war by giving his life for his country. You win the war by making the other poor dumb sons of *****es give their life for THEIR country." Unfortunately when the enemy's goal IS to give their lives for their country (caliphate) so they can get to heaven and claim their 72 virgins, that throws a monkey wrench into things.
     

    hog slayer

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    In all the recent related threads, I hear a lot of, "Muslims are bad", "Islam is bad", etc. Maybe they are. Maybe it is.

    What I don't hear is what exactly we should do about it. People with such strong opinions about what the problem is, surely have strong opinions about the solution.

    So what are they?:dunno:

    That's the cart before the horse. First thing is determining the root of the problem. You have to determine why these things are happening. Much like a cancer, there's a decision to be made even after knowing what cancer is and does. Do you cut it out? Do you treat it with chemo (poison) and kill it? Do you just accept it? But the first step is defining the problem: cancer. Why is it a problem: cancer kills. What can be done?

    There have been suggestions to answer your question on "what to do. " They're just WAY in the back of exploding threads.
     

    ghuns

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    That's the cart before the horse. First thing is determining the root of the problem. You have to determine why these things are happening. Much like a cancer, there's a decision to be made even after knowing what cancer is and does. Do you cut it out? Do you treat it with chemo (poison) and kill it? Do you just accept it? But the first step is defining the problem: cancer. Why is it a problem: cancer kills. What can be done?

    There have been suggestions to answer your question on "what to do. " They're just WAY in the back of exploding threads.

    I'm sorry if I missed them...

    Fair enough. So let's say you are right. Islam is the cancer. Islam kills. That is the root of the problem. What is your prescribed treatment doc?
     

    hog slayer

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    Well, just how bad is the issue? If left unchecked how far will it spread? What are the potential outcomes (positive and negative) of different degrees of the aforementioned?
     

    spec4

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    The way to defeat them is to take away their ability to harm us. To do that they must be killed. Located identified, and killed. We need the ability and the political will to do this.
     
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