Two bodies found in Carroll County

[HoughMade]

I guess it's a get what you payed for scenario.

The best criminal defense lawyers I know do both private-pay clients and court-appointed work.

 

[manifest destiny]

Whose budget typically covers the public defender? I thought they worked pro bono for the indigent. But above it's stated $100-136/hr. Also there's sure to be other incidental fees (that probably add up to a whole bunch on big/dramatic/headlines-type of cases). I'm just curious if the funds come from the prosecutors, state, some random general public fund...

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I would want more experience than that too and I think most judges do as well....but I've learned from John Grisham novels that experience is underrated if you are determined enough.

All I'll say is that is kinda low....but as long as competent defense attorneys are willing to work for it....

I knew an attorney back in the late 80s early 90s that was charging around that. And I'm not positive but I think that may have been his "friends and family rate". ETA wait, which is low. The hourly rate or the amount of hours billed?

The best criminal defense lawyers I know do both private-pay clients and court-appointed work.

Yeah he did both. He said mainly for the contacts and free "vacations". Middle of winter he was flown out to So CA for something like 4 days to tape a deposition for an expert witness that took all of 3 hrs. He took his wife with and just had to pay her airfare and food/drinks for her. He also did some pro-tem work for some of the judges in Lake Co.

Whose budget typically covers the public defender? I thought they worked pro bono for the indigent. But above it's stated $100-136/hr. Also there's sure to be other incidental fees (that probably add up to a whole bunch on big/dramatic/headlines-type of cases). I'm just curious if the funds come from the prosecutors, state, some random general public fund...

I believe a mix of county and state. State will reimburse up to x%.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

The best criminal defense lawyers I know do both private-pay clients and court-appointed work.

The best are usually "true believers" who often work at reduced rates.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Whose budget typically covers the public defender? I thought they worked pro bono for the indigent. But above it's stated $100-136/hr. Also there's sure to be other incidental fees (that probably add up to a whole bunch on big/dramatic/headlines-type of cases). I'm just curious if the funds come from the prosecutors, state, some random general public fund...

County.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Does the prosecution have any input into who is appointed?

No. Nick wouldn't say anything other than it was the Court's business.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Question, did you have any idea that either of these other two were on the list? And how common is it to pick an attorney from several counties away? The one is from Cass Co, understandable. But I believe the other is based around Indy.

No idea that they were on the list. I knew I was just because of my . . . experience in Carroll County.

High profile case, common to pick non-Home Skillet attorney. When Chief Justice Rush had the home invasion, no one here would touch it so an attorney from Clinton County was asked to do it.

 

[HoughMade]

The best are usually "true believers" who often work at reduced rates.

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That describes my friends who do this.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

No idea that they were on the list. I knew I was just because of my . . . experience in Carroll County.

High profile case, common to pick non-Home Skillet attorney. When Chief Justice Rush had the home invasion, no one here would touch it so an attorney from Clinton County was asked to do it.

Yeah, but you already have a murder or two on your plate right now, don't you? May have wanted someone who wasn't quite as busy.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yeah, but you already have a murder or two on your plate right now, don't you? May have wanted someone who wasn't quite as busy.

I didn't want it!

Dude, I didn't volunteer, they were going to draft me.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I didn't want it!

Dude, I didn't volunteer, they were going to draft me.

Oh I know. I was just saying that's maybe why you didn't get voluntold.

 

[Alamo]

....but I've learned from John Grisham novels that experience is underrated if you are determined enough.

 

[bwframe]

First Delphi murder hearing Tuesday, judge sets rules for attendees

A hearing is scheduled in Carroll County at 9 a.m. Tuesday in the case of State of Indiana v. Richard Allen. Special Judge Frances C. Gull has issued a decorum

www.wlfi.com

 

[BigRed]

Tip:

Don't hold your breath waiting for anything to be "unsealed".

 

[manifest destiny]

Maybe PC released but gag order on persons??

 

[injb]

Doug Carter has been giving interviews saying he thinks it should be unsealed. Media have reported that the judge supposedly leans towards unsealing it. I'm expecting some redactions but I'll be surprised if it's not released at all.

 

[bwframe]

Doug Carter has been giving interviews saying he thinks it should be unsealed. Media have reported that the judge supposedly leans towards unsealing it. I'm expecting some redactions but I'll be surprised if it's not released at all.

Doug Carter has done a great job of passing nothing pertinent along to the public from day one of this case. Likely to the detriment of any valuable public assistance there was to be had. Makes sense that he would pass this off on the court, after 5+ years of folks living with the alleged brutal murderer right under their noses?

 

[KLB]

Hopefully they've used the time to build a rock solid case against him with real evidence.

 

[Mounty09]

Delphi murders: No decision on whether to release probable cause for Richard Allen's arrest

A judge made no decision Tuesday about releasing the probable cause affidavit accusing Richard Allen of killing Libby German and Abby Williams.

www.jconline.com

No decision made on releasing any info.

 

[injb]

No decision on unsealing the PC today.

Prosecutor argued to keep it sealed, and reportedly said in court that the reason he wants to keep it sealed is that they believe RA is not the only person involved. He gave the judge a redacted version.

Apparently the defense argued for unsealing the PC.