Two bodies found in Carroll County

[printcraft]

 

[HoughMade]

I just don't believe they have caught the guy yet

I hope they have, but I have no idea.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I'm pretty sure the anthony shots profile guy set up a meeting with the girls that same day... coincidently.

From my understanding (limited) the police during the interview told him that he did, he denied it. He may have, or the police could have been lying to get a confession. He did admit to pretty much everything else though. So I have no idea.

 

[GregD]

Has Allan ever been arrested for anything before?

 

[manifest destiny]

This wasn't included in the local reporting I read. It's from the DailyMail, so, you know, caution to accuracy.

Andrew Baldwin, defense attorney for Allen, says that he is the 'wrong guy' and the sealed probable cause affidavit is 'flimsy' adding: 'You expect more than what I saw.'

Upthread HoughMade (many thanks for his contributions in this thread) mentioned that a defense attorney must make a record, accordingly don't read too much into the (paraphrased) "My client didn't do it." But the attached quote is rather specific in stating it is "flimsy" which seems, to this lay person, to strongly suggest the evidence is factually problematic. Add the prosecution supposedly stating there are likely others involved, and, well, this arrest, at this point, appears to maybe be more about applying pressure where authorities think it should be applied. I'll give authorities a long leash to operate, at this point. Surely there must be enough flimsy evidence to affect an arrest. But the sealed PC, the particular charges, admission others may be involved, defense attorney labeling PC as "flimsy", suddenly doubt starts to creep in as to whether Allen is involved directly or simply knows something.

 

[bwframe]

Hammer and Nigel is having the "Murder Sheet" podcast folks on after 5:00. Might be interesting...

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[injb]

This wasn't included in the local reporting I read. It's from the DailyMail, so, you know, caution to accuracy.

Andrew Baldwin, defense attorney for Allen, says that he is the 'wrong guy' and the sealed probable cause affidavit is 'flimsy' adding: 'You expect more than what I saw.'

Upthread HoughMade (many thanks for his contributions in this thread) mentioned that a defense attorney must make a record, accordingly don't read too much into the (paraphrased) "My client didn't do it." But the attached quote is rather specific in stating it is "flimsy" which seems, to this lay person, to strongly suggest the evidence is factually problematic. Add the prosecution supposedly stating there are likely others involved, and, well, this arrest, at this point, appears to maybe be more about applying pressure where authorities think it should be applied. I'll give authorities a long leash to operate, at this point. Surely there must be enough flimsy evidence to affect an arrest. But the sealed PC, the particular charges, admission others may be involved, defense attorney labeling PC as "flimsy", suddenly doubt starts to creep in as to whether Allen is involved directly or simply knows something.

Both attorneys said quite a bit but it took a while for the interviews to show up online



Around 8:25 someone asks Baldwin why he thinks his client is innocent.

The "flimsy" quote comes a little later: "I've got a guy here who says he's innocent, and a PCA that's very flimsy; those are the 2 things I do know".

It sounds like he's playing it safe with his comments, like he half expects to find out much more damning later. I don't envy these attorneys being in this position! They seem sharp though.

 

[DragonGunner]

Yikes...."I gotta a guy here that says he is innocent".......yikes. Aren't they suppose to say "My client is innocent of all charges." He gotta do what he has to do....but I see a clear message he is sending.

 

[manifest destiny]

As more reporting came in, the words used by def. atty. did seem slightly more couched. And I note that while the PC may be "flimsy", it does in fact acknkowledge that evidence against Allen exist. Flimsy though it may be. One might wonder, why arrest Allen now if it's believed others are involved? It's been 5 years and Allen hasn't fled yet. Perhaps pressure against other suspects?

 

[HoughMade]

His defense attorneys say he's innocent. Good enough for me. Case dismissed.

 

[Farmerjon]

At some point I would wonder why the guy would want out. I cannot imagine what he will encounter if loose on the street now.

 

[HoughMade]

At some point I would wonder why the guy would want out. I cannot imagine what he will encounter if loose on the street now.

People say a lot more than they do...and prison sucks, even pretrial detention.

 

[BGDave]

People say a lot more than they do.

Some people do a lot more than they say.
Leon Gary Plauché

 

[GregD]

Has Allen ever been convicted of anything in the passed?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Has Allen ever been convicted of anything in the passed?

To the best of my knowledge only thing he has on his record is a couple of traffic tickets.

 

[HoughMade]

Some people do a lot more than they say.
Leon Gary Plauché

That's 1, nearly 40 years ago, out of how many violent crimes against children?

 

[bwframe]

Yikes...."I gotta a guy here that says he is innocent".......yikes. Aren't they suppose to say "My client is innocent of all charges." He gotta do what he has to do....but I see a clear message he is sending.

Ehhhh, maybe lawyer talk? Covering his own tail for the future, by separating himself from the horrific brutal murderer he has been assigned to represent?

 

[BGDave]

You got me there. But it might be a good start.
I've no use for kid diddlers.

 

[GregD]

If he has never done anything . . . the prosecution had better bring out very thing or this guy will walk.

 

[HoughMade]

If he has never done anything . . . the prosecution had better bring out very thing or this guy will walk.

Generally speaking, criminal history isn't admissible anyway.