Tippecanoe Co.'s MRAP

[stephen87]

You missed
KLB: not effective for the police, unless there is an IED.

 

[SEIndSAM]

I'm trying to figure out this thread, so please indulge me.

So far, some of the players and their positions are:

Kirk: As a taxpayer, he feels that Mraps are not an efficient use of his tax dollars.
BBI: Tools are handy when you need them.
Titanxt: Tried to tell kirk to shut up (good instincts, but futile).
Kut: Maybe Mraps are necessary, maybe he's just being contrary out of habit.
ATM/Huff: Wookies because they love freedom more than order.
Rhino: Sorry for whatever sins he has committed or may commit.
Church: Occasionally pats the banhammer, but leaves it in the holster.
Any other key players/positions I have left out?

Well Done!!! Great Cliffs Notes version for those that don't want to read 32 pages....

 

[SEIndSAM]

I'm trying to figure out this thread, so please indulge me.

So far, some of the players and their positions are:

Kirk: As a taxpayer, he feels that Mraps are not an efficient use of his tax dollars.
BBI: Tools are handy when you need them.
Titanxt: Tried to tell kirk to shut up (good instincts, but futile).
Kut: Maybe Mraps are necessary, maybe he's just being contrary out of habit.
ATM/Huff: Wookies because they love freedom more than order.
Rhino: Sorry for whatever sins he has committed or may commit.
Church: Occasionally pats the banhammer, but leaves it in the holster.
Any other key players/positions I have left out?

Although, I'm not 100% sure it was the ban hammer that Church was patting?????

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Kirk: As a taxpayer, he feels that Mraps are not an efficient use of his tax dollars.

Spot on.

As well,

1. No one has taken my deal of paying for the MRAP in Tippecanoe County so I do not have to.

2. No one has done a risk assessment showing that there is any risk to Sheriff's Deputies not having MRAPs despite my continual pleas and posting the forumula. It's like we are making public policy decisions on feelings instead of math.

Titanxt: Tried to tell kirk to shut up (good instincts, but futile).

It never goes well for the government when it tries to bully me.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Spot on.

As well,

1. No one has taken my deal of paying for the MRAP in Tippecanoe County so I do not have to.

2. No one has done a risk assessment showing that there is any risk to Sheriff's Deputies not having MRAPs despite my continual pleas and posting the forumula. It's like we are making public policy decisions on feelings instead of math.



It never goes well for the government when it tries to bully me.

Kirk, you need some kind of cool nickname like injury attorney Daryl Isaacs'... "The Hammer". Oh, and a commercial with a catchy phone number jingle worked in there.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

It never goes well for the government when it tries to bully me.

Sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I wish you would just shut up (sometimes I agree with you AND wish you would shut up), but I have never seen anyone have any success at shouting you down.

 

[Fargo]

Kirk, you need some kind of cool nickname like injury attorney Daryl Isaacs'... "The Hammer". Oh, and a commercial with a catchy phone number jingle worked in there.

I think his nickname should be "The G36" and not because he malfunctions when overheated...

 

[j706]

When was the last time Kirk Freeman was in a gun fight? If nothing bad happens there, why aren't you over on Indiana Knitting Needle Owners exchanging pleasantries?

Nothing ever happens anywhere right up until it does.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/R...0x88694027dc6c4d83:0x8feca4c642723779!6m1!1e1

https://www.odmp.org/officer/18926-officer-frank-charles-denzinger

Town of 3,000 people. Officer killed by a 15 year old with a .30-06. Kid offed himself inside the house, but I'm sure a bit of armor would have been appreciated had he continued to fire.

That was one of my ILEA "D Squad " classmates that was shot in femur and pinned down.

Get over it people. We all know the latest cool thing is too kick on all the agency's that received MRAPS. News flash for you all, chiefs and sheriffs are tasked with doing what is needed to keep all of their people safe by considering all potential situations. Maybe we should just stop buying all of this pricey body armor that almost every cop has and wears because it is one in the same as the MRAT concern. I will probably never really need my armor but I am sure glad I have it.

There will be a few weak LEO leaders that will cave in on the MRAP subject. However most will not. They are here to stay. While most will never be used they are worth the hassle and the b------g even if they are only needed once...or never at all. The upkeep, lighting and fuel is a bogus BS excuse if one as has have been suggested. They are here to stay just like all of the other things that was cool to b---h about before like patrol rifles, M14's, Tasers and before that OC spray.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I think his nickname should be "The G36" and not because he malfunctions when overheated...

There's no evidence of that, just like there no evidence of any need for Barry's Battlewagon.

You just mentioned the G36 so I would say Gay Dry Sex.

Sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I wish you would just shut up (sometimes I agree with you AND wish you would shut up), but I have never seen anyone have any success at shouting you down.

I just don't believe in being bullied. Sometimes the government forgets this.

I'll pin these f***ing weasels down on this toy. They may soak us but I'll leave a mark on them that they won't run this scam on us again.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

They don't need an MRAP, they need to control the property that we give them: Police search for suspect in stolen squad car

Deputy, I hope you are still there. Please tell me how you are responsible enough to trust with an MRAP when you cannot be responsible for a patrol car?

 

[Birds Away]

I was hoping this thread had died.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

They don't need an MRAP, they need to spend money on educating their deputies on turning over evidence to detectives then having detectives run handwriting examinations: Defendant acquitted of attempted theft, conspiracy charges

I dedicate my victory this week to the elimination of the Tippecanoe County MRAP.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I was hoping this thread had died.

Once I lock my fingers around the back of their necks, I keep kicking them in the balls until they bleed through the eyes.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Kicked the deputy's ass and took her car. Shades of 1928. Good thing you have an MRAP, Sheriff. Not even responsible enough to keep control of what we give you.

Sell the MRAP to the highest bidder, written apology for having it without consent, refund the money to county residents in person.

Inmate attacks sheriff?s deputy, steals marked car | wlfi.com

 

[mrjarrell]

If the deputy had been in the MRAP the thief wouldn't have been able to do that. Now they'll need MRAP's for everyone.

 

[vitamink]

That's a horrible scenario! You should penn a letter to the mayor and explain that bad things can't happen there. Hopefully one of your ducks didn't get ran over. I read that TipCo only has child molesters that are excited about going to jail and meth heads that are completely predictable and downright cordial.

The truth hurts, this deputy f'ed up. This guy was able to take a vehicle and weapon (s?). Now he's armed. Hopefully it'll end on a typical TipCo standoff where the criminal baked brownies and serves French press coffee before skipping of to jail on his own. If the deputy didn't have a gun this wouldn't have happened. We should take all the guns away and return TipCo to the garden of Eden that it once was. And by take the guns away, I mean the officers, not yours. Your guns a perfectly safe from that argument.


"Sell the MRAP" They can't. It's a loan from .gov. They can only give it back or return it when asked.

"Use the money not spent on the MRAP for training" a zero$ training budget? Officers get to show up on a day off to learn about nothing...yay.

"refund the money" can you write a check for zero?

 

[Fargo]

That's a horrible scenario! You should penn a letter to the mayor and explain that bad things can't happen there. Hopefully one of your ducks didn't get ran over. I read that TipCo only has child molesters that are excited about going to jail and meth heads that are completely predictable and downright cordial.

The truth hurts, this deputy f'ed up. This guy was able to take a vehicle and weapon (s?). Now he's armed. Hopefully it'll end on a typical TipCo standoff where the criminal baked brownies and serves French press coffee before skipping of to jail on his own. If the deputy didn't have a gun this wouldn't have happened. We should take all the guns away and return TipCo to the garden of Eden that it once was. And by take the guns away, I mean the officers, not yours. Your guns a perfectly safe from that argument.


"Sell the MRAP" They can't. It's a loan from .gov. They can only give it back or return it when asked.

"Use the money not spent on the MRAP for training" a zero$ training budget? Officers get to show up on a day off to learn about nothing...yay.

"refund the money" can you write a check for zero?

Wasn't this one that Pulaski co wanted to unload and TC was the first sucker in line? If so, it is gonna be hard for them to give it back even if they wanted to.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

I'm trying to figure out this thread, so please indulge me.

So far, some of the players and their positions are:

Kirk: As a taxpayer, he feels that Mraps are not an efficient use of his tax dollars.
BBI: Tools are handy when you need them.
Titanxt: Tried to tell kirk to shut up (good instincts, but futile).
Kut: Maybe Mraps are necessary, maybe he's just being contrary out of habit.
ATM/Huff: Wookies because they love freedom more than order.
Rhino: Sorry for whatever sins he has committed or may commit.
Church: Occasionally pats the banhammer, but leaves it in the holster.
Any other key players/positions I have left out?

Not that I matter but, 'I want one' just for because.
Not a fan of 'too small to fail' anymore than I am a fan of 'too big to fail'. whatever works (sorry)
I still want one (for free preferably)

 

[SEIndSAM]

Not that I matter but, 'I want one' just for because.
Not a fan of 'too small to fail' anymore than I am a fan of 'too big to fail'. whatever works (sorry)
I still want one (for free preferably)

I'VE GOT IT!!!! Robby, we create the INGO Sheriffs Department. That's what mods are anyway. Apply for and receive the MRAP and then Fenway could use it to tow the Bugatti around town.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That's a horrible scenario! You should penn a letter to the mayor and explain that bad things can't happen there.

1. It's not a scenario. They got their asses kicked, twice, this week.

2. Why would a write a mayor? Which one in the County? Why would I do that?

"Sell the MRAP" They can't. It's a loan from .gov. They can only give it back or return it when asked.

Sell it, blow it in place, give it back, just get rid of the gd thing.

"Use the money not spent on the MRAP for training" a zero$ training budget? Officers get to show up on a day off to learn about nothing...yay.

Time=money. Instead of playing armored cav, they could be learning how not to get their asses kicked.

"refund the money" can you write a check for zero?

It's not zero. Why do you think they won't answer me about how much they are spending on this stupid thing?

They would tell me if they were not so ashamed.