The (Current year) General Political/Salma Hayek discussion Thread Part V

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    BugI02

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    I just thought her husband wasn't woman enough for her. You'd think there would be plenty of betas available to her in the true believer ranks of her own party
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    Good a thread as any.

    https://twitter.com/RealKiraDavis/status/1188854916917284866

    Kira Davis said:
    Ya booed the POTUS while he was enjoying America's pastime, you assault ppl w/red hats as if it's justice, you wanna mutilate the healthy bodies of boys who decided they like the color pink one day, erase womanhood on the altar of the trans trend. You want to ban certain words and make other words mandatory, effectively killing the first amendment. You want us to believe the world is ending in 12..no, 10 yrs...no, 18 months bc of Americans doing things like living and breathing every day. You want drag queens at school story hour but want to ban God at school. You endorse assaulting journalists whom you think are covering the "wrong" stories, you harass non-liberal public figures when they're at the store or out with their families. You want to be able to abort a baby right up until the moment it exits the birth canal AND you want us to call it "compassion".You want the rest of America to look to CA as an example of the progressive paradise promised if those dumb hicks in the middle would get on board. You want to cancel ppl's livelihoods & social status for tweets they sent out at 16yo, you want to cancel ANYONE who doesn't toe the liberal line an anything from education to the border. So look at this thread and tell me...why on EARTH would we vote for your side in 2020? Look at this thread and ask yourselves, what exactly are you offering America in 2020 that would in any way inspire them to dump Trump and vote Dem? What is it about anything the left is offering that would make any of us feel safe with you in charge. There are a lot of voters out there who don't like Trump but are terrified by what they see coming out of left-wing America right now. They'll either stay home or vote Trump rather than risk the dystopian future the Left is offering right now.
     

    printcraft

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    Everyone here can get behind something Obama just said.

    [video=youtube_share;qaHLd8de6nM]https://youtu.be/qaHLd8de6nM[/video]


    Between agreeing with this and agreeing with him on drones I think I’m in an alternate reality.
    Weird.
    The Japanese still won WW2 right?
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    The Japanese still won WW2 right?

    we still have anime

    so no

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    BugI02

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    Everyone here can get behind something Obama just said.

    [video=youtube_share;qaHLd8de6nM]https://youtu.be/qaHLd8de6nM[/video]

    Further evidence of which way the winds of change are blowing. The well-oiled weathervanes are beginning to swing around
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    Jack Dorsey (Twitter) announcing policy changes:

    Jack said:
    We’ve made the decision to stop all political advertising on Twitter globally. We believe political message reach should be earned, not bought. Why? A few reasons… A political message earns reach when people decide to follow an account or retweet. Paying for reach removes that decision, forcing highly optimized and targeted political messages on people. We believe this decision should not be compromised by money. While internet advertising is incredibly powerful and very effective for commercial advertisers, that power brings significant risks to politics, where it can be used to influence votes to affect the lives of millions.

    Internet political ads present entirely new challenges to civic discourse: machine learning-based optimization of messaging and micro-targeting, unchecked misleading information, and deep fakes. All at increasing velocity, sophistication, and overwhelming scale. These challenges will affect ALL internet communication, not just political ads. Best to focus our efforts on the root problems, without the additional burden and complexity taking money brings. Trying to fix both means fixing neither well, and harms our credibility. For instance, it‘s not credible for us to say: “We’re working hard to stop people from gaming our systems to spread misleading info, buuut if someone pays us to target and force people to see their political ad…well...they can say whatever they want!

    We considered stopping only candidate ads, but issue ads present a way to circumvent. Additionally, it isn’t fair for everyone but candidates to buy ads for issues they want to push. So we're stopping these too. We’re well aware we‘re a small part of a much larger political advertising ecosystem. Some might argue our actions today could favor incumbents. But we have witnessed many social movements reach massive scale without any political advertising. I trust this will only grow. In addition, we need more forward-looking political ad regulation (very difficult to do). Ad transparency requirements are progress, but not enough. The internet provides entirely new capabilities, and regulators need to think past the present day to ensure a level playing field.

    We’ll share the final policy by 11/15, including a few exceptions (ads in support of voter registration will still be allowed, for instance). We’ll start enforcing our new policy on 11/22 to provide current advertisers a notice period before this change goes into effect.

    A final note. This isn’t about free expression. This is about paying for reach. And paying to increase the reach of political speech has significant ramifications that today’s democratic infrastructure may not be prepared to handle. It’s worth stepping back in order to address.
     

    T.Lex

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    Good luck drawing those lines. This will amount to selective enforcement, IMHO.

    Well, really, it'll just draw more attention to the astroturfing of issues with bots and such.
     

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    Jack Dorsey (Twitter) announcing policy changes:

    Well, a quick check tells me James Woods has 2.07million followers. Seems like that should earn him political message reach, so what new strategies is @jack going to roll out to continue to allow twitter to be a safe space for betas?
     

    jamil

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    Everyone here can get behind something Obama just said.

    [video=youtube_share;qaHLd8de6nM]https://youtu.be/qaHLd8de6nM[/video]

    I agree with most of it, but not all the way because he assumes that activism and “changing the world” are desirable.


    Guess what? “IT’S NOT *YOUR* ****ING WORLD! You share it with billions of people. The probability that you’re too full of **** to change the world without unintended consequences is high enough you better have a consensus before you start making your placards, donning your ***** hats, blocking traffic, punching “Nazis” and demanding anything.

    /rant
     

    jamil

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    I mean I think it sounded more like he wanted people to vote in their local elections than to go block traffic and punch nazis.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with all that. I'm quite pleased that he said it. It shows that he's actually sane for a progressive. And it is absolutely necessary for high profile Democrats to start scolding the woke for being idiots.

    But he mentioned changing the world. That's a phrase which causes a certain personal predisposition to trigger. There will be ranting. It's just inevitable and unavoidable.
     

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    Since when does Tucker Carlson care about what Kanye says or thinks? Hah I guess in his defense pop culture commentary gets the eyeballs, not dry policy debate.
     
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