The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[Dddrees]

Either they had suficient probable cause or not. If they didn't and they got some judge to rubber stamp it, that's one thing. But where's the evidence of that? The headlines read like the Trump administration is just unilaterally ordering this company to hand over those records. It's not the Trump administration ordering it. It's the court through the due process that the constitution outlined.

So let me try to get this right.

I think here is where I am supposed to come back and say chances are the conservative court they used was bound to do exactly that.

The thing is if it where the large net it appears to be then this isn't the way Justice is supposed to work.

 

[Dddrees]

Fyi, I know what a cattle car looks like.

Sorry I just had a vision of one of the cattle cars I saw in Germany. By the way the one I thought of was in a museum.

 

[IndyDave1776]

That's apparently not true. They said why they left, just because it doesn't fit into what you believe don't make their reasonings untrue.

You missed my point. They joined the council because their primary goals in life are in fact parallel with Trump's agenda. They jumped ship because, oh my god, he pissed off the mob.

 

[Kutnupe14]

You missed my point. They joined the council because their primary goals in life are in fact parallel with Trump's agenda. They jumped ship because, oh my god, he pissed off the mob.

He also hasn't delivered on the part of the agenda that concerns them most, and is unlikely to do so.... oh, and they might be part of the "mob" and are pissed off too.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Well you forgot to mention where it would have been under Obama if he had done it when it became vacant to begin with. Same as Hillary I guess.

But I have much more concern if any President Right Or Left gets enough where a drastic shift occurs.

So then you have a problem with Red Frank using his 4 terms to pack the court creating the judicial situation we now have?

 

[ATM]

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So let me try to get this right.

I think here is where I am supposed to come back and say chances are the conservative court they used was bound to do exactly that.

The thing is if it where the large net it appears to be then this isn't the way Justice is supposed to work.

Create a website as a tool in committing a crime, and yes, you should expect the authorities to seize everything that comprises that website. This is not some rare thing that only happened here because the criminals were anti-Trump. In fact, apparently this is so common that the DoJ published a "how-to" in the November 2011 edition of the US Attorneys Bulletin.

See pg 35, "Compelling Online Providers to Produce Evidence Under ECPA". This is a standard investigation except that the all of the snowflakes melting are making a river.

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao/legacy/2011/11/30/usab5906.pdf

 

[SheepDog4Life]

In fact, back in Jan 2007, the SOP was to march in with the warrant and SEIZE THE SERVER according to this DoJ Special Report on "Investigations Involving the Internet and Computer Networks ".

See Chapter 4. Investigations Involving Web Sites...

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/210798.pdf

 

[2A_Tom]

SD, what does DOJ do to a company, not controlled by the Clintons or the Democrat party, that deletes information and destroys devices under subpeona?

 

[Kutnupe14]

SD, what does DOJ do to a company, not controlled by the Clintons or the Democrat party, that deletes information and destroys devices under subpeona?

Im confident you're old enough to Nixon.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Im confident you're old enough to Nixon.

I assume you meant 'remember Nixon'. As actually posted this reminds me of the joke about the teacher who asked one of her students if he liked Kipling to which he replied, "I don't know, I have never kippled."

 

[PaulF]

Ahhh...you beat me to it Dave!

I, too, am old enough to Nixon...but I'm still too young to want to!

 

[2A_Tom]

Actually I don't dance.

6 minutes of magnetic tape - 35,000 e mails.

 

[ghitch75]

[video=youtube;pQYZ-bMpoXU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQYZ-bMpoXU[/video]

Wait a sec. You used a CNN video not more than 6 posts upthread less than 2 hours ago and YOU are criticizing someone else for using videos? Physician, heal thyself.

you mean this???????......just show that he condemned them......i didn't criticized anyone......it was a video and i could give a **** less if it was CNN......that was not the point.....

 

[IndyDave1776]

Ahhh...you beat me to it Dave!

I, too, am old enough to Nixon...but I'm still too young to want to!

 

[ghitch75]

again....these people have lost there ****ing minds!!!!!!!!!!

MO Dem Posts, Deletes Call for Trump's 'Assassination' | Fox News Insider

 

[ghitch75]

Hillary Clinton?s book release has Dems worried, irritated | Fox News

 

[ghitch75]

Wasserman Schultz' ex-IT aide indicted on 4 counts | Fox News

 

[jamil]

I assume you meant 'remember Nixon'. As actually posted this reminds me of the joke about the teacher who asked one of her students if he liked Kipling to which he replied, "I don't know, I have never kippled."

Ahhh...you beat me to it Dave!

I, too, am old enough to Nixon...but I'm still too young to want to!

I think using Nixon as a verb is apropos in some circumstances. Most everyone who knows what he did will understand what is compressed in that usage.

 

[jamil]

Hillary Clinton?s book release has Dems worried, irritated | Fox News

"Democrats are privately concerned that Clinton’s book will help Trump, by fueling his case that Democrats are going after him because they’re bitter."

Ya THINK?