The 2016 General Election Thread

[ArcadiaGP]

Nonsense. They are small, insignificant... Remember?

Nominating Trump was the best way to help Clinton.

GOP Chair Priebus Warns "Never Trump" forces could help Hillary Clinton - ABC News

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Political Anthropology: Outside Cleveland, Democrats are becoming Republicans - CNNPolitics.com

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Politico is reporting that anti-Trump delegates have enough signatures to force a floor vote to unbind.

Almost zero chance of passing, but could make a statement.

Never Trump delegates have support needed to force rules vote - POLITICO

 

[T.Lex]

They should stop. We get it.

I absolutely understand the motivation.

But, I'm generally against pyrrhic victories. I'm even more against pyrrhic defeats.

 

[Dead Duck]

Politico is reporting that anti-Trump delegates have enough signatures to force a floor vote to unbind.

Almost zero chance of passing, but could make a statement.

Never Trump delegates have support needed to force rules vote - POLITICO

Why do so many Republicans want Hillary to be the next President?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

They should stop. We get it.

I absolutely understand the motivation.

But, I'm generally against pyrrhic victories. I'm even more against pyrrhic defeats.

Heh, apparently the RNC secretary is literally hiding from the petitioners that want the vote.

RNC Convention Secretary Is Hiding From Dump Trump Petitioners | RedState

 

[ArcadiaGP]

David Horowitz says he's being told that pro-Trump alternate delegates are being installed instead of present delegates.

So, Trump, essentially: Go find me some different voters. The results are only valid if I control the vote.

Almost Putin-esque... which ties into the other story today... Trump campaign dismantling the anti-Russia GOP stance on Ukraine. That one's from WaPo... and I'm not linking it because WaPo is trash and won't let me view the story... and I'm not jumping through browser/cookie hoops to do it.

 

[BugI02]

Heh, apparently the RNC secretary is literally hiding from the petitioners that want the vote.

RNC Convention Secretary Is Hiding From Dump Trump Petitioners | RedState

A somewhat ... less jaded view https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...370996-4cdd-11e6-a422-83ab49ed5e6a_story.html

[Trigger Warning: It's the WaPo]

"A renegade group of delegates seeking to force a rules vote that would have embarrassed Trump and top GOP officials fell short of securing enough signatures to compel one. The reason: a handful of delegations withdrew support for the measure, bowing to the wishes of Trump and Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus.
The outcome cleared the path for Trump to accept the GOP presidential nomination without having to clear new hurdles. But it underscored the deep rifts that continue to plague the Republican Party during a week that was supposed to reflect unity."


"Earlier in the day, New Hampshire Sen. Gordon Humphrey came to the convention floor claiming to be holding a packet of documents with the requisite number of signatures from enough states to force the vote they wanted. Trailed by dozens of reporters, Humphrey delivered the signatures to a convention official, who reviewed them.
But that’s as far as it went, as three state delegations pulled back their support, according to Rep. Steve Womack of Arkansas, who presided over the drama. That left the Trump foes below the threshold they needed to reach."

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[jamil]

David Horowitz says he's being told that pro-Trump alternate delegates are being installed instead of present delegates.

So, Trump, essentially: Go find me some different voters. The results are only valid if I control the vote.

Almost Putin-esque... which ties into the other story today... Trump campaign dismantling the anti-Russia GOP stance on Ukraine. That one's from WaPo... and I'm not linking it because WaPo is trash and won't let me view the story... and I'm not jumping through browser/cookie hoops to do it.

I don't know how true that is, but if it is true, probably won't be long before the Trumpers decide maybe the Russians invading and taking Ukraine was for the best after all.

 

[mrjarrell]

David Horowitz says he's being told that pro-Trump alternate delegates are being installed instead of present delegates.

So, Trump, essentially: Go find me some different voters. The results are only valid if I control the vote.

Almost Putin-esque... which ties into the other story today... Trump campaign dismantling the anti-Russia GOP stance on Ukraine. That one's from WaPo... and I'm not linking it because WaPo is trash and won't let me view the story... and I'm not jumping through browser/cookie hoops to do it.

Hot Air has a blurb on it with a link to the article. Had no issues reading it at the WaPo site.

Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine « Hot Air Headlines

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Hot Air has a blurb on it with a link to the article. Had no issues reading it at the WaPo site.

Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine « Hot Air Headlines

More here

Seriously underplayed aspect of Trump's unfitness for office. Nobody's done the full dive on what he owes Putin.

The Media Is Not Paying Enough Attention to the Trump-Kremlin Ties

 

[Dead Duck]

David Horowitz says he's being told that pro-Trump alternate delegates are being installed instead of present delegates.

So, Trump, essentially: Go find me some different voters. The results are only valid if I control the vote.

Almost Putin-esque... which ties into the other story today... Trump campaign dismantling the anti-Russia GOP stance on Ukraine. That one's from WaPo... and I'm not linking it because WaPo is trash and won't let me view the story... and I'm not jumping through browser/cookie hoops to do it.

Hot Air has a blurb on it with a link to the article. Had no issues reading it at the WaPo site.

Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine « Hot Air Headlines

More here

Seriously underplayed aspect of Trump's unfitness for office. Nobody's done the full dive on what he owes Putin.

The Media Is Not Paying Enough Attention to the Trump-Kremlin Ties

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I read things like this and wonder...Is there really more than one choice out there? It appears all of them have their favored version of taxing from one to give to another.

Gary Johnson is Open to Government Subsidized Income - Liberty Viral

 

[indiucky]

I read things like this and wonder...Is there really more than one choice out there? It appears all of them have their favored version of taxing from one to give to another.

Gary Johnson is Open to Government Subsidized Income - Liberty Viral

Anarchists were protesting Brexit...Because nothing says Anarchy like backing up Big Government, Goldman Sachs, and the Global Elite....

I have come to the conclusion that (some) Libertarians and Anarchists are just Democrats with Tattoos and Steam Punk googles....I remember one of INGO's resident Libertarian/Anarchist's said the lady refusing to put her signature on marriage licenses in Casey County (for activists that traveled great distances to get their marriage license in Casey County) should be "buried underneath the jail by the full force of the law" for refusing to do so...

It's amazing how fast they can go fascist against someone that doesn't align with their narrow view of freedom....

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Anarchists were protesting Brexit...Because nothing says Anarchy like backing up Big Government, Goldman Sachs, and the Global Elite....

I have come to the conclusion that (some) Libertarians and Anarchists are just Democrats with Tattoos and Steam Punk googles....I remember one of INGO's resident Libertarian/Anarchist's said the lady refusing to put her signature on marriage licenses in Casey County (for activists that traveled great distances to get their marriage license in Casey County) should be "buried underneath the jail by the full force of the law" for refusing to do so...

It's amazing how fast they can go fascist against someone that doesn't align with their narrow view of freedom....

Not really....when you've watched them operate for awhile.

 

[T.Lex]

...Steam Punk googles....

I giigled at the thought of a vacuum tube and steam engine search engine.

 

[jamil]

I giigled at the thought of a vacuum tube and steam engine search engine.

Oh, I thought it was the name of an 80s punk band.

 

[mrjarrell]

I read things like this and wonder...Is there really more than one choice out there? It appears all of them have their favored version of taxing from one to give to another.

Gary Johnson is Open to Government Subsidized Income - Liberty Viral

I will just have to assume you read and didn't know what he was talking about. The UBI, as a replacement for the current welfare system has been discussed in many libertarian circles. It's actually a better method than the current hodgepodge of systems. Using a carbon tax to fund it, while getting rid of the current environmental system, is something I'd like to take a look at. Might save a few millions of dollars and serve to deregulate a number things.

 

[jamil]

I will just have to assume you read and didn't know what he was talking about. The UBI, as a replacement for the current welfare system has been discussed in many libertarian circles. It's actually a better method than the current hodgepodge of systems. Using a carbon tax to fund it, while getting rid of the current environmental system, is something I'd like to take a look at. Might save a few millions of dollars and serve to deregulate a number things.

Nope. That's douchebaggery.

 

[mrjarrell]

Based on what?