The spice must flow....
Wow. A lot of catching up to do in here.
Been doing some reading, and I've got to say the refugees are the least of my concerns. The vetting process is about as exhaustive as it can get. It may be difficult to obtain as much background info in the middle east, but the vetting process monitors them throughout the waiting period.
Wow. I wasn't aware we had two such illustrious immigration officials among our membership. What are the odds? I mean we've got two people who are aware of refugees status and what they went through to get here. Wow.
It would take then too long to get to their goal, if they even made to the US, and not some other country, and made it past the vetting process. Much easier to try gaining access other ways.
It was.........a wake up call.
There's a lot of bleeding hearts here that are all for it till they see the consequences. Makes me sad really that they lack the foresight to see the pot of **** waiting at the end of the rainbow. There must be something in the soda that causes weakness and naivety.
Don't trust the people that handle the matter every day for a living and trust what some moron on the television, radio or internet that have zero experience beyond having an agenda to sell. Nice.
I think the irony shown in this thread is that preventing refugees from settling in the US is actually a liberal idea because the conservative, or traditional idea, is that we accept them with open arms. Plus the cries for somehow identifying, possibly with a symbol on their clothing, and subjecting them to random searches and rounding them up for relocation are all things that happened in Nazi Germany. Based on what has been posted in this thread I really don't think this is far off the mark. How big will the government become in order to vet, process and keep an eye on these refugees?
This issue is making a lot of people irrational and fearful.
That very well may be true.
The .gov should not get bigger, I think the issue for many resides in the circumstances that have taken place. I truly think if 9\11, the war on terror, rise of Isis, etc. Never occurred and these refugees consisted more of families, instead of able bodied men then many more would be open to it. If our financial problems as a country didn't exist, and trust for government was higher, more would probably be for it. However our situation right now doesn't fit the bill.
I understand the sentiment, but thinking of our own is not irrational. Its being protective. Many are not afraid of terrorists, they simply would rather avoid having them here. I'm not saying all these people are terrorists, simply saying the potential exists for there to be a few out of however many refugees.
It's all about the votes. Just like all of the "immigrants".
A great book series.I see what you did there. read the book....saw the movie....
This is how the terrorists won. They've made us a fearful nation. 319 million people scared out of their minds over 10,000 refugees which will have gone through a long and arduous screening process which doesn't even guarantee individuals will be allowed to settle here. The fear is setting in and it's causing people to consider ideas and actions that we fought against in the past.
The spice must flow....
The problem is that when evaluating what the manual says, you are absolutely correct, but I have a hard time trusting the .gov to do any better quality of work here than it does anywhere else. In practice, these people could just as easily be put on long-term hold until the .gov gets around to admitting them without near the scrutiny that the official narrative would indicate.
The bigger problem is that we already have enough problems already without admitting massive numbers of people in addition to the ones we already don't have the resources, including and especially jobs, to support--even more troublesome than the potential for admitting terrorists, or more likely, people of sympathies which make them or their children good candidates for recruiting into terrorism after their arrival.
Rather than taking in the refuges from Syria I think we should help them take back their own country. Issue each a M4, a manual on the care and feeding of said rifle, and 1000 rounds of ammo. Let them kick ISIS out.
I'll go one step further. I've already donated but I'll match anybody else's donation, up to $100 (total -- I'm not a wealthy man) if they want to do something other than complain about what others may or may not be doing.
For what reason do you support admitting them? Do we exist for their benefit? If not, how does this improve the United States?
The same kind of screening process those from Mexico go thru?
"a long and arduous screening process"
I just had to laugh some more.
Thanks.
Go read the contents of post #749. You probably skipped it because it's long.
We're at war. When viewed thru that lens, bad things can and will happen (see WWII internment etc). If you cant tell the fifth columnists and terrorists from the rest of them than you exclude them all until you can.
Ah yes. Ex Reactor Operators are known for their lack of reading skills.
Or, some people lack basic skills relating to human nature, and haven't witnessed a government agency when people above "look the other way" so that things can proceed.