Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[bobzilla]

It seems pretty clear to me that you are either for killing children or you aren't.

It’s the US and Ukrainians fault we are killing kids. Haven’t you been reading?

 

[ditcherman]

I just looked it up. I remember countless times hearing about bills failing to neutralize it, I never remembered hearing it actually got destroyed.

Well that's at least one world ending scenario off the table.

Wait we’re believing what we can look up?
I’m so confused.

 

[ditcherman]

Cryptic messages are scary.

You’re not wrong, but I went back for a minute and considered the source…
Not a lot of dependable stuff, almost always hyperbole.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Russel Brand breaks down the complexities on why the war began and how US involvement played a big part in leading up to it and why you can’t just look at it in simplistic terms.

When has any conflict been straightforward and simplistic?

I’ll wait for you look through just American history.

 

[KG1]

When has any conflict been straightforward and simplistic?

I’ll wait for you look through just American history.

Those were his words which I take it to mean that no one should go by the MSM approach which tends to be too simplistic. He is encouraging everyone to dig a little deeper and I do as well.

A lot of people take sides without bothering to delve into the complexities which are contributing factors.

 

[KG1]

It seems pretty clear to me that you are either for killing children or you aren't.

I am in no way condoning Russia's military action and Ukraine has every right to defend against. I'm basically calling out our own government's actions in regard to foreign entanglements when they pretty much lead to disastrous outcomes.

 

[BigMoose]

They certainly have slowed on progress....

 

[Keith_Indy]

Good analysis, interesting read...

One thing I've always thought is the various forming and un-forming of various empires, conquest/re-conquest and the seemingly randomly drawn borders is the cause of much of the conflict. I don't know a solution to that.

Ukraine shows we live in a nationalist world - Washington Examiner

It turns out that we live in a nationalist world. That’s one of the lessons people are learning from the surprise early results of the Russo-Ukrainian war.This is certainly not a welcome development for Davos Man — for the leaders of great international agencies, financial institutions, and...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Leadeye]

US leadership certainly doesn't have clean hands in the Ukraine, particularly the Bidens. These deals are in a lot of other places in the world, time bombs really, waiting to explode. It's all based on George 1s New World Order where money rather than nationalism or ideology makes all the decisions.

This in no way excuses the brutality of the conflict, but I think sharpens the focus on the failure of the New World Order.

People don't fight just to line the pockets of the next rich guy in line.

 

[DragonGunner]

Attempted shifting of the Overton window,

“Conditions present for the spread and amplification of infectious disease “

Ya that’s what happens in war, why is it suddenly a concern now and not in any previous wars?

Is it because a deadly weaponized pathogen might escape a “not a bio weapons “ lab?

That dude was bought and paid for by China long ago....literally. Works and says what China tells him.

 

[oze]

Good analysis, interesting read...

One thing I've always thought is the various forming and un-forming of various empires, conquest/re-conquest and the seemingly randomly drawn borders is the cause of much of the conflict. I don't know a solution to that.

Ukraine shows we live in a nationalist world - Washington Examiner

It turns out that we live in a nationalist world. That’s one of the lessons people are learning from the surprise early results of the Russo-Ukrainian war.This is certainly not a welcome development for Davos Man — for the leaders of great international agencies, financial institutions, and...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

If I had any doubts whatsoever about Ukrainian national pride, they were completely eliminated after watching "Winter on Fire" on Netflix last night.

 

[DragonGunner]

It’s the US and Ukrainians fault we are killing kids. Haven’t you been reading?

Not speaking for Expat....but if everyone involved was against killing children then none of this would be happening. Thats a great outcome....the problem is no one in leadership has ever been this thoughtful....but like Killary would say...."what does it matter now."

 

[Cameramonkey]

"well, to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs."

 

[Keith_Indy]

Not speaking for Expat....but if everyone involved was against killing children then none of this would be happening. Thats a great outcome....the problem is no one in leadership has ever been this thoughtful....but like Killary would say...."what does it matter now."

That is the reality we are in right now. Countless administrations and countries have their hand in all the messes we are in right now.

Name one thing that only one side of the aisle had a hand in, over the course of time that is, not the immediate circumstance which "broke the camels back" on an issue. You can always find some compromise, some opportunity not taken, half hearted support, rolling over, done in the name of political expediency and favor.

The local, state and the federal governments need to come to a better understand of their roles in relationship to the people. And the people need to be clear and more united about that. The average person doesn't know and probably doesn't care about the difference between representative and direct democracy. They didn't pay attention in high school, or it was bumped from the curriculum for social indoctrination.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Well this is something you do when your guilty

The out here is that we probably don't own or possess it, we just FUND it.

 

[spencer rifle]

"well, to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs."

Well, where's the omelet? And is there bacon in it?

No one seems to realize that if the chef is a psycho the omelet will likely be inedible, or poisonous.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Well, where's the omelet? And is there bacon in it?

No one seems to realize that if the chef is a psycho the omelet will likely be inedible, or poisonous.

For them,

Omelet = CONVID19
Bacon = CONVID19 vaccine

you don't need to be a psycho to make an inedible omelet

 

[Keith_Indy]

Going back to a point about military discipline... not sure if any special forces were involved in anti-war protests over our various adventures. there's probably been a few. see the Vietnam anti-war protest documentary as example.

I was also thinking ways the scuttle butt could go is... any number of combinations like this.

SF ground troop -> SF field commander -> veteran SF buddy -> reporter
SF ground troop -> veteran SF buddy -> reporter

Watch Sir! No Sir! | Netflix

This documentary chronicles the largely forgotten antiwar activities of American GIs and other members of the military during the Vietnam era.

www.netflix.com

 

[Tombs]

Hope this is not bad

That's because they're isolating their internet friday.

 

[Tombs]

It seems pretty clear to me that you are either for killing children or you aren't.

Careful there, the DHS might declare you a terrorist for making such strong anti-american comments.

Biden administration admits killing 10 civilians in Kabul airstrike, no ISIS-K

The Pentagon admitted Friday that a drone strike that killed multiple civilians in Afghanistan last month killed only civilians snd not an Islamic State extremist as it first reported.

nypost.com