Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[Onebad06vtx]

Things are getting spicey.

I'm inclined to believe it, if China really was the perp who killed millions of people with covid, I don't believe for a second we'd have sat on our hands over it. If it was due to us ****ing up, well then things start to make sense.

Either put up or shut up.
Show me the proof.
But it does not surprise me one bit if its true!

 

[Keith_Indy]

A Large Scale False Flag Cyber-Attack Is Now Imminent - Alt-Market.us

By Brandon Smith In early 2021 at the height of media generated covid fear the World Economic Forum released a...

alt-market.us

FF incoming

A Large Scale False Flag Cyber-Attack Is Now Imminent - Citizens Journal

By Brandon Smith Remember Cyber Polygon? SLL has posted several articles about it, including an earlier one by Brandon Smith. A false flag cyber-attack definitely possible, even probable, and it would be disastrous. It would be instigated by the WEF and blamed on Russia. In early 2021 at the...

www.citizensjournal.us

They should just say cyber attack, we know that. We are unlikely to know exactly who initiated it.

Over the course of hours and days infrastructure, company and personal data can be compromised, held ransom or destroyed

 

[Keith_Indy]

At this point the media has everyone so anti Russian that russia could provide a treasure trove of documents along with the scientist himself who invented covid19 and the world would call it fake news.

I’d like things to be verified before believing it.

 

[Kurr]

MSN

 

[DoggyDaddy]

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Anonymous TV? I don't do Twitter but I'm pretty sure they would have a blue check mark by their handle if they were verified. I don't think this is "the" Anonymous.

 

[rooster]

I’d like things to be verified before believing it.

My trust in “verifications” is running a bit thin after it was verified two weeks ago that our government didn’t have bio weapons labs in Ukraine but then two days ago a DOD official came out and said we have “not a bio weapons” biological research labs in Ukraine.


Here we go hot off the press, WHO calls the labs “health labs”

 

[drillsgt]

1 is a pretty reasonable request and would benefit everyone.

2 is a sore deal and not something I'd support. IMO Russia should be willing to give back the territory in exchange for 1.

3 could be reasonable from things I've heard and might be for the best if there's significant tensions due to it.

Give them the eastern rebel regions, wall it off and let Russia support them.

 

[Keith_Indy]

My trust in “verifications” is running a bit thin after it was verified two weeks ago that our government didn’t have bio weapons labs in Ukraine but then two days ago a DOD official came out and said we have “not a bio weapons” biological research labs in Ukraine.


Here we go hot off the press, WHO calls the labs “health labs”

My understanding, the have labs that have deadly biological materials for research and they are not producing mass material for the military to use.

Labs that developed COVID vaxx had COVID viral material.

 

[smokingman]

Props to the Dutch.

Hypocrisy game played by the West

Notice how the gods of property rights in SA and the West suddenly became tongue-tied when the filthy rich Russian oligarchs suffered the indignity of their luxury properties being seized by police.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

 

[wagyu52]

 

[smokingman]

Analysts predict a Venezuela-style default for Russia, and soon

Sanctions from the West will drive Russia to defaulting on its foreign debt within a month, Morgan Stanley analysts predict.

fortune.com

Russia
$146,143,787,520 at today's value in official LME verified gold reserves.
National debt is 280 billion in USD terms. It has 17 billion parked in SDR's over at the IMF. It has 185 billion in USD terms of Yuan reserves(largely used to facilitate trade in Rubles and Yuan with China directly). In 2021 it had well over 600 billion in known currency reserves alone.

In other words before we blocked them from the system they had enough cash on hand they could have paid off their debt entirely.

The idea they could default would only even be possible if the money is actually stolen(which I admit is exactly what looks like is happening),but the reality is even if everything but gold,Yuan,and Rupee(those really cannot be cut off by the west)was stolen, they would still not default on interest payments(unless those payments where not accepted,and that was called a default).

 

[BugI02]

Now apparently Jacobin magazine describes itself as a "leading voice of the American left offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture"

Not quibbling with the points you are making, but look up who the original Jacobins were and then contemplate what anyone liking that so much that they named their magazine after them might say about their viewpoint

 

[BugI02]

Attempted shifting of the Overton window,

“Conditions present for the spread and amplification of infectious disease “

Ya that’s what happens in war, why is it suddenly a concern now and not in any previous wars?

Is it because a deadly weaponized pathogen might escape a “not a bio weapons “ lab?

Does he burst into flames? 'Cause I think anyone from the WHO quoting anything even remotely biblical would burst into flames

 

[BugI02]

1 is a pretty reasonable request and would benefit everyone.

2 is a sore deal and not something I'd support. IMO Russia should be willing to give back the territory in exchange for 1. [review the importance to Russia of the naval base at Sevatapol. One of the triggers for the Crimea annexation was Ukraine was not going to renew a lease/agreement on that base which is home to Russia's Black Sea fleet. Not thinking this would ever be on the table]

3 could be reasonable from things I've heard and might be for the best if there's significant tensions due to it. [also unlikely. If they give back Crimea there would be no need, but as mentioned above that isn't going to happen. IMO they will annex the two breakaway regions because of their desire for a land corridor to Russia that is Russian controlled]

Seems like he is asking for things he knows he will not get because he doesn't really want to stop the war

 

[BugI02]

My understanding, the have labs that have deadly biological materials for research and they are not producing mass material for the military to use.

Labs that developed COVID vaxx had COVID viral material.

One tell would be any mechanical processing of anthrax spores. The spores are smoothed as well as made smaller in weaponization in order to make them easier to disperse and then have them go as deeply as possible into the lungs when inhaled

I know of no rational reason for them to be working with hemorrhagic fever unless it is endemic somewhere in their country? If it is Lassa it is almost certainly biowarfare work

 

[BugI02]

AFTER RUSSIA LOSES

Wars are unpredictable affairs. Experts can evaluate troop strength and weaponry. But morale and courage do not lend themselves to quantifiable analysis. Nor does leadership. No one can predict whe…

toputitbluntly.com

 

[BugI02]

No Sacrifices for Ukraine

We owe the Ukrainians nothing, yet our garbage ruling class is demanding that we brace ourselves for unspecified sacrifices for their sake just as they have every time they have made some foreign policy screw-up.

townhall.com

 

[BigMoose]

Its not going well.

 

[Tombs]

Its not going well.

With there being nothing left for Russia to lose, because our heads of state in the west are braindead... Then this simply boils down to who can muster the most resources and bodies.

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out what that results in.

I guess offering to drop various sanctions to end the war would be too much for anyone to stomach at this point. This is why empty propaganda and gesturing is idiotic. As is attempting to "cut off" someone who still has economic partners the west relies on.

 

[KG1]

Not quibbling with the points you are making, but look up who the original Jacobins were and then contemplate what anyone liking that so much that they named their magazine after them might say about their viewpoint

Yeah I was aware of the history behind the title. I wasn’t aware at the time of the source that Brand used until I dug a little deeper. So I made sure to post it so everyone could make up their own opinion. With that being said I still agreed for the most part with what Russel Brand had to say. That’s why I posted the video.

Also when taking a closer look I realized that Brand does use a lot of liberal left sources so that is one thing to keep in mind for future reference.