Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[DadSmith]

Analysts predict a Venezuela-style default for Russia, and soon

Sanctions from the West will drive Russia to defaulting on its foreign debt within a month, Morgan Stanley analysts predict.

fortune.com

 

[nra4ever]

FF incoming

A Large Scale False Flag Cyber-Attack Is Now Imminent - Citizens Journal

By Brandon Smith Remember Cyber Polygon? SLL has posted several articles about it, including an earlier one by Brandon Smith. A false flag cyber-attack definitely possible, even probable, and it would be disastrous. It would be instigated by the WEF and blamed on Russia. In early 2021 at the...

www.citizensjournal.us

 

[jsx1043]

Good analysis, interesting read...

One thing I've always thought is the various forming and un-forming of various empires, conquest/re-conquest and the seemingly randomly drawn borders is the cause of much of the conflict. I don't know a solution to that.

Ukraine shows we live in a nationalist world - Washington Examiner

It turns out that we live in a nationalist world. That’s one of the lessons people are learning from the surprise early results of the Russo-Ukrainian war.This is certainly not a welcome development for Davos Man — for the leaders of great international agencies, financial institutions, and...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Boy, if that’s not a WEF mouthpiece article, I don’t know what is. They are repeating all of the WEF/Great Reset talking points there to put them into the mainstream consciousness.

I don’t know if it’s meant to be tongue-in-cheek or not since they’re usually that one the nose...

 

[nra4ever]

Now India and Pakistan

 

[Tombs]

Things are getting spicey.

I'm inclined to believe it, if China really was the perp who killed millions of people with covid, I don't believe for a second we'd have sat on our hands over it. If it was due to us ****ing up, well then things start to make sense.

 

[DadSmith]

The three demands that Russia wants to ending the war.
1) Ukraine must change its constitution to guarantee it won’t join any blocs (NATO, EU, etc.).
2) Ukraine must recognize Crimea as Russian.
3) Ukraine must recognize the eastern Rebel regions as independent.

Now we wait to see if anything happens towards ending the peace keeping action by Russia.

 

[DadSmith]

Ukrainians sink Russian warship that attacked Snake Island – report

Ukrainian military says Vasily Bykov sunk in a missile attack near the port city of Odesa

www.timesofisrael.com

Not sure if this is old news. They seem to have confirmed this as true.

 

[Tombs]

The three demands that Russia wants to ending the war.
1) Ukraine must change its constitution to guarantee it won’t join any blocs (NATO, EU, etc.).
2) Ukraine must recognize Crimea as Russian.
3) Ukraine must recognize the eastern Rebel regions as independent.

Now we wait to see if anything happens towards ending the peace keeping action by Russia.

1 is a pretty reasonable request and would benefit everyone.

2 is a sore deal and not something I'd support. IMO Russia should be willing to give back the territory in exchange for 1.

3 could be reasonable from things I've heard and might be for the best if there's significant tensions due to it.

 

[nra4ever]

In 2021 Ukrainian Citizens Petitioned Zelenskyy: US Biolabs in Ukraine Are DEATH FACTORIES, CLOSE Them Immediately. Today: Russia Tells The US “We Have Found Your Biological Weapons”.

The biolabs scandal looks like a part of the script for the next global Plandemic

lionessofjudah.substack.com

 

[Keith_Indy]

Boy, if that’s not a WEF mouthpiece article, I don’t know what is. They are repeating all of the WEF/Great Reset talking points there to put them into the mainstream consciousness.

I don’t know if it’s meant to be tongue-in-cheek or not since they’re usually that one the nose...

I think this would be where his opinion is, most of everything else was here's what "Davos man" believes, the current situation and context.

Summary of Opinion:

We live in a nationalist world.
This is certainly not a welcome development for Davos Man.
The larger lesson is that it makes sense for nations to rely on their own available energy sources now.
Americans and Europeans have no difficulty in identifying Putin’s nationalism as malign.
Appreciate the strengths and achievements of other people's nationalisms, even as we try to improve our own.

 

[bwframe]

 

[Keith_Indy]

Things are getting spicey.

I'm inclined to believe it, if China really was the perp who killed millions of people with covid, I don't believe for a second we'd have sat on our hands over it. If it was due to us ****ing up, well then things start to make sense.

Of course they do, they got them from the Chinese...

Response: bring your complaints to the U.N. and we'll discuss... where we can veto everything.

 

[Shadow01]

That's an outright lie, unless something changed that I'm unaware of.

IIRC, there's boatloads of VX sitting here in Indiana that we've been trying to get rid of for decades.

Newport Army chemical depot has been empty for over a decade. The property is now a commercial industrial park With a few dozen new business buildings. I can’t speak for any other state sites.

 

[Keith_Indy]

1 is a pretty reasonable request and would benefit everyone.

2 is a sore deal and not something I'd support. IMO Russia should be willing to give back the territory in exchange for 1.

3 could be reasonable from things I've heard and might be for the best if there's significant tensions due to it.

See way above, General Flynn's peace plan. IIRC

#1 - Already agreed to by Zelenskyy, basically Neutrality like the Swiss. (Everyone's free to make deals with the Ukraine govt.)
#2 - Give Russia Crimea, they pay for the improvements Ukraine put into it since it was incorporated into Ukraine.
#3 - Give the 2 territories referendum or something like that, more independence.
#4 - Security Guarantees for all involved.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Things are getting spicey.

I'm inclined to believe it, if China really was the perp who killed millions of people with covid, I don't believe for a second we'd have sat on our hands over it. If it was due to us ****ing up, well then things start to make sense.

We were collaborating with multiple countries on multiple research fronts, partly through deniable grants.

And at the moment, we have to take Russia's word that these are authentic, and accurately described (all on down the pike.)

 

[nra4ever]

 

[erasure]

 

[rooster]

Things are getting spicey.

I'm inclined to believe it, if China really was the perp who killed millions of people with covid, I don't believe for a second we'd have sat on our hands over it. If it was due to us ****ing up, well then things start to make sense.

At this point the media has everyone so anti Russian that russia could provide a treasure trove of documents along with the scientist himself who invented covid19 and the world would call it fake news.

 

[Tombs]

At this point the media has everyone so anti Russian that russia could provide a treasure trove of documents along with the scientist himself who invented covid19 and the world would call it fake news.

I'm sure that russophobia isn't by accident, either lol.

 

[DadSmith]

See way above, General Flynn's peace plan. IIRC

#1 - Already agreed to by Zelenskyy, basically Neutrality like the Swiss. (Everyone's free to make deals with the Ukraine govt.)
#2 - Give Russia Crimea, they pay for the improvements Ukraine put into it since it was incorporated into Ukraine.
#3 - Give the 2 territories referendum or something like that, more independence.
#4 - Security Guarantees for all involved.

So Putin must agree with General Flynn.