Re-Elect the President?

[Classic Liberal]

"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

GOP candidate Ronald Reagan posed that same question to the American people in 1980 when debating then-President Jimmy Carter. Its the same question that we should be asking of President Obama.

Would anybody have been able to foretell with certainty of the benefit of a Reagan presidency? Or which liberties would be restored? Or which portion of the government that would be reduced? What could anybody tell anyone , with certainty, of the benefit of having Reagan as the next POTUS?

Romney has done little to garner my vote. From his voting record, he has done much to not get my vote. Some of you don't seem to care about that, only that you want Obama gone.
All of you rooting for Romney without any clear direction of where he may drift are nothing more than the same kind of voter base Obama had 4 years ago...hope and change. Good luck with that!

 

[Kutnupe14]

With at least three SCOTUS chairs to be filled in the next four years, whom would you like to be choosing those personalities? Plus, we are in a Religious war, have been since ≈600AD, and ~WE~ are the final patriotic generation who will be able to win it. The inertia of births in Moslem countries vs the death rate in "Christian" countries (to Islam, ANY RELIGION that is not Islam is pagan or Christian) is about to tip in Islam's favor, and our dissipation of patriotism is being rushed along by unfriendly imports from our south whose god is their belly and whose allegiance is to Uncle Sugar at the welfare office or Sam Walton. You have three options: (1)vote right, get your soul/mind/gut right, and zero in on center-mass out to 1,000 yards, buy Claymores every time you see them on sale; (2)"Make friendly" with as many enemy as you think you can feed for awhile, as you prepare to slit their throats before they do yours; (3)Do nothing and hope for your family's deaths to happen by YOUR hand rather than that of the white slaver who knows exactly where you live. All you need is a knife. As for the post-election results, we can still shake the Senate by the scrotum and get more of what we want through them. Romney is ot more than a figure-head, and he does believe in America a LOT more than Ø does, even though BOTH religions of the front-runners i funky. Puhleeze, DON'T blame it all on Bush again! Your white strip is showing and we had your scent a mile back ! ! ! ! EBG

huh?

 

[.45 Dave]

I will be voting for Gary Johnson.

And I will be saluting your resolve to stay the course from my seat in the Titanic's lifeboat. Full speed ahead Captain!

 

[KJQ6945]

Romney has done little to garner my vote. From his voting record, he has done much to not get my vote. Some of you don't seem to care about that, only that you want Obama gone.
All of you rooting for Romney without any clear direction of where he may drift are nothing more than the same kind of voter base Obama had 4 years ago...hope and change. Good luck with that!

Vote for a third party and your vote goes straight in the crapper.
Vote for Obama and the country goes in the crapper.

We've gone over this several times. You've not successfully disputed it. Instead, you ask us to predict with certainty what Romney will do. The only guarantee you get is he will be right of Obama. How much to the right is anybodies guess.

So either tell me I'm wrong and Romney is more of a socialist than Barry, or tell us all what scares you so much about him. Did he touch you in bad places? You must know something about him that the rest of us don't.

 

[.45 Dave]

Be it Obama or Romney at the helm, the SS Liberty is sinking. The only difference is the rate of speed... fast or faster. Johnson is the only thing resembling a life boat.

Best wishes.

A paper cup full of wishes and good intentions is not a lifeboat!
If the ship is indeed sinking then let us slow it as much as possible so that we might prepare ourselves and our families to learn to survive in the rough seas that await us!

 

[jayhawk]

Will the 20 Obama supporters (so far) wanna get together at my place and have some non alcoholic beer, brie, sushi, and arugula? I can show you my brand new Birkenstocks and then we can smoke some dope and talk socialism or whatever. I have some great non tobacco stogies and a pleasant $4 Trader Joe's Sauvgnon Blanc. I also want to run my new version of 'Kumbai (by) ya.

Later, under cover of darkness, in the basement, we can plot against the other 90% of INGO members. Keep this to yourselves, there are a lot of crazies running around here.......

How bout you come over to New Haven for some draft craft beers at the Trion (or PBR if you're not a 1%er). We can chuckle and roll our eyes as they guy at the end of the bar declares "ain't no liberals around here" and proceeds to tell the hilarious new racist joke he just heard the other day and/or drop some knowledge that his co-worker just told him about from the internets. We can talk about the idea of offering state subsidized birth control as a means of curtailing welfare and medicaid expenses as the people around us turn 12 shades of red.

 

[jayhawk]

So either tell me I'm wrong and Romney is more of a socialist than Barry, or tell us all what scares you so much about him. Did he touch you in bad places? You must know something about him that the rest of us don't.

I have a feeling Romney is more interested in serving large multi-national corporations than the American people. Do you want "socialist" state control or corrupt corporate/state control? You get both with either candidate, but Obama leans slightly more to state control and Romney leans slightly more to big business/big government collusion. Neither seem to put a huge priority on individual liberty.

 

[Classic Liberal]

So either tell me I'm wrong and Romney is more of a socialist than Barry, or tell us all what scares you so much about him. Did he touch you in bad places? You must know something about him that the rest of us don't.

I don't think Romney is more of a socialist than Obama, but he certainly isn't for a free Republic either.
What I know of him that many of you choose to ignore is his voting record.
If he did not have the (R) behind his name, simply looking at his voting record will show how Democrat leaning he really is. **** on that lame excuse about having to work with Democrats to get things passed. Gary Johnson's record is impeccable while dealing with the same issue of a heavily Democratic state. There have been comparisons of Romney to John Kerry. Would you vote for Kerry simply to rid us of Obama?

 

[Ted]

Honestly, I'm not sure I can vote for Romney. I'm not at all convinced that he would do less damage than our current president, and the list of his top campaign contributors reinforces the doubts I have about him.

Top Contributors to Mitt Romney | OpenSecrets

and for reference:
Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

That said, it seems very likely that Indiana will be back to red this year. So, our (IN residents) EC votes will likely go Romney.

Do you happen to remember all the campaign cash hanky-panky with Obama in 2008?

Besides accepting foreign contributions, the campaign website did not require credit card verification under the $100 statutory amount. In essence, anyone could make $99 campaign contributions as many times they wished, and without being tracked. These practices gave the Obama campaign a huge advantage in fundraising.

Small wonder why he chose not to accept federal campaign money, considering that he would have had to comply with accounting record keeping practices.

 

[mrjarrell]

 

[Classic Liberal]

Most excellent...

 

[KJQ6945]

That's very touching. I was moved.

Meanwhile back in reality; Can Johnson win? Be honest with yourself. Do you really believe he has a chance?

 

[lashicoN]

Fantasy menus are important only to the wet dreamers.

lol yeah, except that I just proved it isn't a fantasy menu, because in reality, he is in the race. Does he stand a chance of winning? No. Isn't he polling at <1%? His lack of popularity doesn't change the reality that he is in the race. Have fun with your obsession with wet dreams and fantasies, weirdo.

In the last 56 Presidential elections, how many third party/no party/independent party candidate have succeeded in garnering enough electoral votes to become president?

When was the last time a third party/no party/independent party candidate succeeded in garnering even 1 electoral vote?

Pragmatically and historically, the choice is between the major party candidates....despite your math theory. An election is about people and votes, and not so much math......unless you're speaking of money.

Why did you quote me in this reply? It has nothing to do with what I was talking about. I never said Johnson stood a chance in hell of winning. Math isn't a theory. If one has three different choices, then one has three choices, not only two. That isn't so much a theory as it is common sense and reality.

I agree pragmatically, there are two choices. Realistically though, there are more than two choices. An election isn't about math? Are you kidding me? If an election has nothing to do with math, then Johnson has the same shot at being President as Romney or Obama. It is because of math that he stands no chance of winning. An election is about the NUMBER of votes one receives.

You keep dodging the only point I've made in this thread, which is that your statement, that you keep ignorantly making, that a vote for anyone other than Romney is a vote for Obama, is false. Once again, isn't Johnson polling under 1%? Those votes are not going to swing the election, even if I concede that your theory is true, which it isn't. If people want to vote for Mitt Romney, he is on the ballot. A third party will not steal any of HIS votes, because if they were his, he would have received them. Is the brick wall comprehending?

 

[mrjarrell]

Meanwhile back in reality; Can Johnson win? Be honest with yourself. Do you really believe he has a chance?

Yes, he can win if enough people set aside their lunacy and actually vote for the most qualified candidate with a track record that makes Reagan look like a socialist. All it takes is numbers and a lack of fear and republican partisanship.

 

[Tsigos]

Odds are that Romney will lose so you should not waste your vote on him and instead should use it to send a message to the GOP that they need to find a better candidate in 2016.

 

[Classic Liberal]

That's very touching. I was moved.

Meanwhile back in reality; Can Johnson win? Be honest with yourself. Do you really believe he has a chance?

Ask yourself that question of Romney.

 

[mrjarrell]

Odds are that Romney will lose so you should not waste your vote on him and instead should use it to send a message to the GOP that they need to find a better candidate in 2016.

And that is a completely valid strategy.

 

[PistolBob]

And that is a completely valid strategy.

Sure is...if you're a chipmunk.

 

[Ted]

And that is a completely valid strategy.

You don't like Romney, you didn't like McCain, and you didn't really didn't care for Bush 43, nor Bush 41. You don't seem to like anybody.

So in the interim, lets just keep electing the Obamas, the Clintons, the Gores.

Hell, perhaps you can even find Walter Mondale to become prez.

Some strategy.

 

[Classic Liberal]

You don't like Romney, you didn't like McCain, and you didn't really didn't care for Bush 43, nor Bush 41. You don't seem to like anybody.

So in the interim, lets just keep electing the Obamas, the Clintons, the Gores.

Hell, perhaps you can even find Walter Mondale to become prez.

Some strategy.

When a Republican candidate is appealing to us, we shall vote for him/her...but it seems like the Republican party doesn't really care about the US Constitution, otherwise RP would have been nominated by now.