What evidence do you have that it's not the same balloon?Yea, not the same balloon, so i doubt either of those pics are it.
What evidence do you have that it's not the same balloon?Yea, not the same balloon, so i doubt either of those pics are it.
Look at the damn pics... pics posted aren't even the same hardware under it.What evidence do you have that it's not the same balloon?
Do you understand how high 60,000 feet is? Our fighters don't fly that high, so it's unlikely that a 50 cal round is going to be feasible, whereas a missile would be.Exactly, what is the us government hiding. A few 50 cal rounds or whatever caliber is used in these jets these days..idk... could have created slow leaks in balloon to possibly bring it down whole.
At one point the balloon was reportedly at 47k feet. But anyway, F22 can fly 65k feet.Do you understand how high 60,000 feet is? Our fighters don't fly that high, so it's unlikely that a 50 cal round is going to be feasible, whereas a missile would be.
I realize that. Some type of projectile to puncture it. I'm just shocked a drone wasn't used being they fly that high.Do you understand how high 60,000 feet is? Our fighters don't fly that high, so it's unlikely that a 50 cal round is going to be feasible, whereas a missile would be.
I see what you mean now, and I apologize. The one in post #170 doesn't look right. I've seen other pics that look like the one in #178 though.Look at the damn pics... pics posted aren't even the same hardware under it.
I thought it was reported early on that it was out of range altitude-wise? I must be misremembering.At one point the balloon was reportedly at 47k feet. But anyway, F22 can fly 65k feet.
Anyone who thinks that a foreign aircraft from an enemy nation (or at least adversarial, if "enemy" makes you queasy) breaching our airspace and likely gathering intel over our sensitive missile silos and military bases, and thinks that it shouldn't have been shot down because a cow in the middle of nowhere might get beaned with a solar panel, obviously thinks that it's no big deal. A proportional response to Chinese spy craft in our airspace, and over our heartland, is to just watch it and let it do whatever it is that it's doing? Your position IS extreme.So, you're turn. Who said it's no big deal? Unless you're going Trooper route and this is just trolling via meme. The answer is nobody, and you know it. There's a difference between attempting to analyze intent and calling for a proportional response than shrugging it off as nothing. Like in the 5 shot thread, you seem to lose that nuance and simply assign me a position at an extreme instead.
Which one violates territorial integrity of a sovereign nation? Try to keep up.So many people in this thread act like it's strength to be a chihuahua barking at everything that moves past your yard. I would suggest things like: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64479712 disagree with that narrative building. Which is a bigger in your face move, floating a balloon or increasing military presence and ability to project force at sea?
No, you need to stop and ****ing think. Funny how you keep referencing Chicken Little, when you can't tell when there is an actual potential threat in the actual sky. My position has nothing to do with partisan politics, other than a few jokes and clever memes that I thought I'd share. My concern is the defense of this nation. You act like you know what the Chinese are doing up there, then make your assessment of "prolly not a threat" based on that. I assume the worst of our enemies, especially the CCP, and base my assessment on that.Put this in a bigger context. ****ing think. Stop reacting to the Chicken Little narrative and partisan politics.
Thank you, General.Is it a real threat to the US? No.
Well, that's refreshing...and rare. If only you believed it.I'm also well out of my league
20MM Vulcan in HEI is the current combat load on the M61 on most us Jets (Outside the AV-8 and the A-10)Exactly, what is the us government hiding. A few 50 cal rounds or whatever caliber is used in these jets these days..idk... could have created slow leaks in balloon to possibly bring it down whole.
Besides, if it was hosed with an M61, the result would have been the same.Do you understand how high 60,000 feet is? Our fighters don't fly that high, so it's unlikely that a 50 cal round is going to be feasible, whereas a missile would be.
Right here. I’ll take those in .38spl please.Find where I mentioned sky nukes in a balloon, and win a free box of wadcutters.
These are obviously two different balloons in case anyone didn’t notice. The solar panel arrays are markedly different.
Yep, I missed that. Mea culpa.These are obviously two different balloons in case anyone didn’t notice. The solar panel or razor markedly different.
The Germans used it. We had the Helium.Only thing lighter than Helium is Hydrogen.
We tried that once.
Remember the Hindenburg?
Post #240Find where I mentioned sky nukes in a balloon, and win a free box of wadcutters.
I got a spam email yesterday about a problem with my Netflix account (I don't have Netflix). I bet it's all related!I'm glad they didn't pop it over land, it could have contained a deadly virus. Did that balloon have anything to do with wanting me to disconnect my adblocker to sign into Twatter? Nice try NSA.