Open carry encounter

[VUPDblue]

The thing that is impossible to convey in an internet posting is inflection. The person who confronted me was neither respectful or friendly. I have zero responsibility or interest in being polite as a peach when I get approached in that manner. Given the chance to repeat the encounter there isn't anything I am dying to change about it. I have no duty to educate or a duty to smother you with sweetness when you approach me with an attitude.

 

[VUPDblue]

Someone enlighten me. What department does VUPDblue work for?

Why does it matter?

 

[Bunnykid68]

But I heard on INGO that you don't have to prove ANYTHING to a cop! You can just lie to them or shut up!

Yep, you can lie, but would look like a fool trying to convince someone that is looking at your gun that you do not actually have a gun

 

[Bunnykid68]

Someone enlighten me. What department does VUPDblue work for?

.

 

[Booya]

I read 83 posts and I LOL's 4 times and I got to use LOL like a school girl. I approve this thread and doubly approve the OP.

 

[Bunnykid68]

The thing that is impossible to convey in an internet posting is inflection. The person who confronted me was neither respectful or friendly. I have zero responsibility or interest in being polite as a peach when I get approached in that manner. Given the chance to repeat the encounter there isn't anything I am dying to change about it. I have no duty to educate or a duty to smother you with sweetness when you approach me with an attitude.

I think even if they were being polite about it it would depend on how bad you had to pee on how you would handle it.

 

[VUPDblue]

I did have to pee pretty bad

 

[churchmouse]

I did have to pee pretty bad

If you were holding yourself that might have been the trigger.....

 

[mainjet]

If you stop me on the way to the bathroom then you are going to irritate me. If you stop me on the way to the bathroom to irritate me then you are getting peed on... That will be your education for the day.

 

[ScouT6a]

Why does it matter?

It was a pretty simple question. Do you not have to "prove" anything to me either?

 

[chezuki]

If you were holding yourself that might have been the trigger.....

Also would have changed the ENTIRE meaning of "are you ok to carry that?"!!

 

[SmileDocHill]

VUPd, I read on INGO all you really had to say was "am I being detained, or am I free to go?" You shouldn't have to alter a second of your life for these power hungry tattle tales.

Kidding aside, what bothers me the most is the mentality the guy had. Obviously he didn't think he was in danger or he wouldn't have approached you. Instead he based his concept of right and wrong totally on whether everyone around him was obeying the laws.

In days of old when you asked someone the question 'can you do that?' it was assumed by all parties that they were questioning your skills, abilities, or competence to safely accomplish something. I'll even go on to say the assumed mood was that of 'cool, you can do that ' and not 'are you sure you won't get hurt.' Now days when asked it is assumed by all parties that they mean 'do you have permission', or 'is it legal' and the mood is usually more like 'I'm going to tell so I can stay on the overlords good side'. I miss hearing my parents talk about their adventures as young adults when they decided to do stuff based on their abilities and not on permissions.

 

[nakinate]

It was a pretty simple question. Do you not have to "prove" anything to me either?

No, he doesn't have to prove anything to you. This is the internet, not a court of law.

 

[SteveM4A1]

VUPd, I read on INGO all you really had to say was "am I being detained, or am I free to go?" You shouldn't have to alter a second of your life for these power hungry tattle tales.

Kidding aside, what bothers me the most is the mentality the guy had. Obviously he didn't think he was in danger or he wouldn't have approached you. Instead he based his concept of right and wrong totally on whether everyone around him was obeying the laws.

In days of old when you asked someone the question 'can you do that?' it was assumed by all parties that they were questioning your skills, abilities, or competence to safely accomplish something. I'll even go on to say the assumed mood was that of 'cool, you can do that ' and not 'are you sure you won't get hurt.' Now days when asked it is assumed by all parties that they mean 'do you have permission', or 'is it legal' and the mood is usually more like 'I'm going to tell so I can stay on the overlords good side'. I miss hearing my parents talk about their adventures as young adults when they decided to do stuff based on their abilities and not on permissions.

I think the guy in the OP was just trying to get some free food out of the ordeal. Why else would he point VUPD out to the waitress?

 

[VUPDblue]

I dont have to prove a damn thing to anyone. If I'm a LEO and if so, which department I work for has zero bearing on any of this.

 

[ScouT6a]

And there's the attitude! LMAO! Are you under cover? Are you embarrassed by it? Or are you confirming my suspicions, that VUPD is the Vincennes University Police Department?

 

[SmileDocHill]

I think the guy in the OP was just trying to get some free food out of the ordeal. Why else would he point VUPD out to the waitress?

My guess would be because he is the epitome of sheep and considers the waitress the person he is supposed to report any possible illegal activity to assuming she will pass it up the food chain. I've talked to MANY people who live every day of their lives thinking they are being great citizens by being big brothers eyes and ears. They have lost all ability to make decisions on their own. They genuinely believe if everyone would just stop trying to think things out on their own and just do as they are told the worlds problems would be fixed.

 

[nakinate]

And there's the attitude! LMAO! Are you under cover? Are you embarrassed by it? Or are you confirming my suspicions, that VUPD is the Vincennes University Police Department?

 

[nakinate]

Scout6a, am I required to reveal my place of employment to you as well? If I say no will I have an attitude as well?

 

[Smokepole]

Originally Posted by VUPDblue
My sweatshirt had ridden up and exposed my M&P

At least you didn't expose yourself in the bathroom.

Silly, that's where he's SUPPOSED to expose himself.