I 65 Ticket

[gunbunnies]

Indygunworks, I pay 57% of what I make in taxes, they work for me and those are my roads.... Just saying...

 

[IndyGunworks]

Indygunworks, I pay 57% of what I make in taxes, they work for me and those are my roads.... Just saying...

Whats right, and whats reality here are two totally different things. Show me in the constitution of either the state, OR the country where driving a on public roadways is a RIGHT.

I agree with what you are implying here whole heartedly, but that's just not the reality of the situation.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Indygunworks, I pay 57% of what I make in taxes, they work for me and those are my roads.... Just saying...

also, that SUCKS. I didn't realize it was possible to pay OVER HALF of your income in tax's.

 

[BravoMike]

So it is a travel advisory that has penalty by weight of law? Doesn't sound like much of an advisory to me. I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to drive, I thought that I shouldn't drive... big difference. Glad I didn't.

 

[gunbunnies]

klb, he's saved then...

Landon, the warning delivered to a Radio Station in the region read that the sheriff's office strongly suggested for everyone to stay home...

The Officer is suppose to operating in a manner to produce a safe condition in an-otherwise dangerous conditions.... I would think he should have been in a position to keep vehicles from entering the road that was closed and not in a position to further endanger motorists who were attempting to travel... Maybe I'm wrong but at the top of the ramp is a bad idea I would think...

 

[Roadie]

All I can say is WOW!

If I don't go to work, I could get fired. If I try to go to work, I could get a ticket. If I get a ticket, I can ***** about it on INGO. If I ***** about getting a ticket on INGO, somebodies gonna get banned.

Seriously?

Addendum:
If we banned people for "*****ing", wouldn't you have already been banned a few posts ago? Food for thought..

 

[Landon]

How do you prove someone driving knowingly, intentionally or recklessly violated the warning?

I suppose the person could self incriminate, but short of that?

My guess is it goes something like this. The officer shows up in court and says three quarters of the state was under a emergency warning. In accordance with Indiana code this mean only emergency travel is permitted. He encountered the accused out on the roads during an emergency warning and after a discussion he determined the accused travel was not an emergency and therefore was recklessly violating the IC.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Indygunworks, I pay 57% of what I make in taxes, they work for me and those are my roads.... Just saying...

No they don't, and no they aren't!

 

[Stickfight]

Show me in the constitution of either the state, OR the country where driving a on public roadways is a RIGHT.

It is my understanding that the argument goes something like this. I believe it is a component of the "free man" ideology.

As far as paying for it, the State owns the roads. Drivers do not 'pay for them'.

 

[Landon]

klb, he's saved then...

Landon, the warning delivered to a Radio Station in the region read that the sheriff's office strongly suggested for everyone to stay home...

The Officer is suppose to operating in a manner to produce a safe condition in an-otherwise dangerous conditions.... I would think he should have been in a position to keep vehicles from entering the road that was closed and not in a position to further endanger motorists who were attempting to travel... Maybe I'm wrong but at the top of the ramp is a bad idea I would think...

I am not arguing that. The bottom of the ramp does make more sense, but I wasn't there and maybe there was reason he was further up the ramp.

It doesn't much matter whats reported by media. The Indiana Code is the law and its each persons responsibility to be informed and know the laws. By no means am I saying I have read it and know all the laws, but as I said earlier ignorance is not a justifiable excuse in the eyes of the law.

 

[gunbunnies]

Dirtebiker, was that post to my post or Scutter01's ?

Indygunworks you pay 57% too, just figure up your payroll taxes you pay out of your check and multiply it by 2 because your employer can't employ you without matching the tax he takes out for you and then lets not even think about the state excise, road, gas taxes and sales tax and property tax and if you smoke or buy ammo there are additional taxes plus county income tax... It's 57 % or more....

 

[HoughMade]

So it is a travel advisory that has penalty by weight of law? Doesn't sound like much of an advisory to me. I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to drive, I thought that I shouldn't drive... big difference. Glad I didn't.

Lake County was (is, as I write this) under a declared "State of Emergency" restricting travel to emergency only and I-65 (and I-94, for that matter) was officially closed. Travel advisories have nothing to do with it.

 

[CHCRandy]

I didn't read all these posts but I did see the cops that the OP was talking about. We have been out and working the last 40 hours up and down 465 from 56th to Michigan. One thing the OP didn't mention was all the billboard warnings as I was heading north on 465 was flashing I- 65 CLOSED at Mile Marker 25 or something like that........now I don't recall the signs saying NO ENTRY or I 65 EXIT CLOSED.

I would have run from him if in 4x4......them cruisers stand no chance in weather like this Since you didnt I would fight it. The sign didn't say to not enter....it said it was closed at a particular mile marker.....which the OP may or may not have known where that mile marker was.

And how about these road conditions. Gas tax, wheel tax, property tax, gubberment subsidy and we are still driving on ice because the tightwads won't spend money for salt.

 

[stephen87]

Seriously?

Addendum:
If we banned people for "*****ing", wouldn't you have already been banned a few posts ago? Food for thought..

That's how we roll around here.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Dirtebiker, was that post to my post or Scutter01's ?

Indygunworks you pay 57% too, just figure up your payroll taxes you pay out of your check and multiply it by 2 because your employer can't employ you without matching the tax he takes out for you and then lets not even think about the state excise, road, gas taxes and sales tax and property tax and if you smoke or buy ammo there are additional taxes plus county income tax... It's 57 % or more....

 

[Bunnykid68]

It is my understanding that the argument goes something like this. I believe it is a component of the "free man" ideology.

As far as paying for it, the State owns the roads. Drivers do not 'pay for them'.

Who pays for them then? Don't say the State because the State has no money.

 

[IndyGunworks]

I didn't read all these posts but I did see the cops that the OP was talking about. We have been out and working the last 40 hours up and down 465 from 56th to Michigan. One thing the OP didn't mention was all the billboard warnings as I was heading north on 465 was flashing I- 65 CLOSED at Mile Marker 25 or something like that........now I don't recall the signs saying NO ENTRY or I 65 EXIT CLOSED.

I would have run from him if in 4x4......them cruisers stand no chance in weather like this Since you didnt I would fight it. The sign didn't say to not enter....it said it was closed at a particular mile marker.....which the OP may or may not have known where that mile marker was.

And how about these road conditions. Gas tax, wheel tax, property tax, gubberment subsidy and we are still driving on ice because the tightwads won't spend money for salt.

Salt wouldn't have made a lick of difference on this one.

 

[Landon]

And how about these road conditions. Gas tax, wheel tax, property tax, gubberment subsidy and we are still driving on ice because the tightwads won't spend money for salt.

Pretty sure salt does absolutely nothing when we experience the temperature we are.

 

[Stickfight]

Who pays for them then? Don't say the State because the State has no money.

The State.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Whats right, and whats reality here are two totally different things. Show me in the constitution of either the state, OR the country where driving a on public roadways is a RIGHT.

I agree with what you are implying here whole heartedly, but that's just not the reality of the situation.

Give this a read and research the cases. Then let me know what you find.
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