Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

[foszoe]

And? Kut asked for examples and I gave one, from this trial. That alone should have resulted in a mistrial.

Kut said witnesses? I read jurors....you read witnesses?

 

[buckwacker]

Is that not the fault of Chauvin's defense team when picking jurors?

You only get to toss so many and then you're stuck with what you get.

 

[foszoe]

How am I supposed to take this heroic overture seriously when youve admitted to freely voting for the party of tyranny and opression?

Would you vote to send an innocent man to death row?

 

[BugI02]

I have come to the realization that there are a lot of “liberty-living patriots” that would watch you get carted off in a cattle car, if it ensured their own family’s safety and security. Those are people you cannot rely on. Even for you wayward Trumpers, I would freely put my life, and my family’s life on the line to save yours from tyranny and oppression. If you, as an American citizen, can’t say the same, you are not entitled to the fruits of this nation. In fact, if that tree ever stops bearing fruit, it’s not due to the tyrant, but due complicity of silence from those who know better.

Please, ************; you wouldn't even put your VOTE on the line to save us from tyranny and oppression. All the patriot LARPing would be unnecessary if you and others like you had just done that - but, no; you had convinced yourself that Trump was the bad guy and you haven't awoken from that delusion even yet. Why should I trust your judgement now?

 

[jamil]

No, no they haven't. Feel free to dig up quotes from 50 or a hundred years ago.

Oh, I'm not doubting that bat **** crazy people have said stuff like that. Hell, kids said **** like that in my school back in the 70's. But, there wasn't a serious threat of it becoming widespread, and high profile people NEVER would say stuff like they're saying today. It's enough people now that it's becoming widespread and it's also coming from members of congress, hollywood, even the ****ing network news.

Unless Kut cares to give an alternate interpretation of it all.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

You'd vote an innocent man to the gallows

“You voted”

vs

“You would vote”

has a significant amount of difference. I’ll let you figure out what.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

 

[IndyGal65]

So you’d lie? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of American patriotism, is it?

A severed pig's head was found on the doorstep at the former home of a Chauvin defense witness. You know damn good and well these jurists would be harassed, hell possibly injured or killed, if anything other than a guilty verdict was handed down.

Vandals splattered blood and left a severed pig's head outside the former home of an expert who testified for Derek Chauvin's defense

Barry Brodd, a former Santa Rosa police officer, testified that Derek Chauvin's actions in George Floyd's fatal arrest were "objectively reasonable."

news.yahoo.com

 

[Tombs]

You'd vote an innocent man to the gallows

I never said he was innocent, you must have not read.
I said it was reasonable to figure he could be guilty of manslaughter whether I agree with it or not.

If it's him or me, welp, sorry but I'm not going to lie to everyone here with heoric platitudes about some superiority complex.

 

[jamil]

Please, ************; you wouldn't even put your VOTE on the line to save us from tyranny and oppression. All the patriot LARPing would be unnecessary if you and others like you had just done that - but, no; you had convinced yourself that Trump was the bad guy and you haven't awoken from that delusion even yet. Why should I trust your judgement now?

Well, c'mon man. Kut has never admitted that 0biden is a tyrant and oppressor. But. While we've brought up the name, Kut's so confident that he'd save even the Trumpers from the gallows of an oppressor. Would he save Trump? Ironically, sometimes people don't recognize oppression when it scratches an itch.

 

[buckwacker]

Kut said witnesses? I read jurors....you read witnesses?

Come on fos, you're not this dumb. If during the trial on which I'm sitting as a joror, a defense witness's home is vandalized with blood and a severed pigs head, I shouldn't interpret that as intimidation? Come on man?! as your guy Biden would say.

 

[foszoe]

I never said he was innocent, you must have not read.
I said it was reasonable to figure he could be guilty of manslaughter whether I agree with it or not.

If it's him or me, welp, sorry but I'm not going to lie to everyone here with heoric platitudes about some superiority complex.

So you would vote on the basis of the evidence regardless of concerns for your families safety?

 

[buckwacker]

Would you vote to send an innocent man to death row?

No

 

[foszoe]

Come on fos, you're not this dumb. If during the trial on which I'm sitting as a joror, a defense witness's home is vandalized with blood and a severed pigs head, I shouldn't interpret that as intimidation? Come on man?! as your guy Biden would say.

That could be intimidating after you prove the jurors were aware it had happened, but you haven't.

 

[JCSR]

Come on fos, you're not this dumb. If during the trial on which I'm sitting as a joror, a defense witness's home is vandalized with blood and a severed pigs head, I shouldn't interpret that as intimidation? Come on man?! as your guy Biden would say.

The jury was instructed to not watch TV or read news about the case.

 

[d.kaufman]

I have come to the realization that there are a lot of “liberty-living patriots” that would watch you get carted off in a cattle car, if it ensured their own family’s safety and security. Those are people you cannot rely on. Even for you wayward Trumpers, I would freely put my life, and my family’s life on the line to save yours from tyranny and oppression. If you, as an American citizen, can’t say the same, you are not entitled to the fruits of this nation. In fact, if that tree ever stops bearing fruit, it’s not due to the tyrant, but due complicity of silence from those who know better.

Coming from someone that voted for a platform that vowed to take away our 2A rights away, I call

 

[jamil]

So you’d lie? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of American patriotism, is it?

If you thought Chauvin--okay people stop laughing, this is a hypothetical in which Kut thinks objectively--was innocent of all charges, and you're on the jury, and you hear a sitting congreswoman make not so veiled threats, and you hear many high profile people making the same threats, threatening to dox jurors, you think you would hold out? The words are easy to say.

 

[churchmouse]

That could be intimidating after you prove the jurors were aware it had happened, but you haven't.

That is a question that would be easy to answer for Sooooooo many in society today.

 

[Tombs]

So you would vote on the basis of the evidence regardless of concerns for your families safety?

I just told you, if the choice is him or my family, sorry.
I have responsibilities, family comes first.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Are you on record saying you found his 2A stance a complete surprise or you were somehow duped into voting for him? Because if not, you own it. The guy IS the authoritarian you always claimed Trump would be

Yeah, you’re gonna have find that post, because I can tell you that ain’t true. Biden is a Democrat. You pretty well know what you’re getting 2A-wise from a Democrat. I just weighed the possibilities of what they could accomplish, compared to things I disliked about Trump. What I did say, what’s that I had not read his 2A platform from his website. Feel free to prove otherwise.