Fish tank gurus

The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana

Member Benefits:

  • Fewer Ads!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • bobbittle

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    14   0   0
    Sep 19, 2011
    1,670
    38
    West side
    I have some South American mixed in with my Africans, but you are right for the most part.

    Bristle-nosed plecos are also OK, but not regular plecos since cichlids are eye biters.

    Regular plecos can be kept with cichlids easily.

    And mixing South Americans and Africans is typically never a good idea. The Africans usually get the short end of the stick. Not to mention the vastly different water parameters they need.
     

    bobbittle

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    14   0   0
    Sep 19, 2011
    1,670
    38
    West side
    I have been messing for fish tanks for 20 years now and do not even know how to check nitrate levels.

    1. Go to pet store.
    2. Buy Nitrate test kit (typically a dip stick).
    3. Test away!

    Nitrates are the most important thing you should be testing for. They are the end result of the bacteria cycle in the aquarium and can only be removed via water changes.
     

    Caleb

    Making whiskey, one batch at a time!
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Aug 11, 2008
    10,155
    63
    Columbus, IN
    Didn't want to create a new thread, so I'll revive this one...This is my first fish tank, been up and running about a month or a little more, water is still cloudy from my understanding of the nitrogen cycle that needs to be completed. I do 10-25% water change a week(sometimes twice a week), couple days ago I switched from the junk top fin filter to an aquaclear 30 in my 10 gal tank, and check levels via pet store once a week.

    They say water hardness is up but other levels are good. Here's my naked tank:

    null_zps1da866a7.jpg
     

    bobbittle

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    14   0   0
    Sep 19, 2011
    1,670
    38
    West side
    Didn't want to create a new thread, so I'll revive this one...This is my first fish tank, been up and running about a month or a little more, water is still cloudy from my understanding of the nitrogen cycle that needs to be completed. I do 10-25% water change a week(sometimes twice a week), couple days ago I switched from the junk top fin filter to an aquaclear 30 in my 10 gal tank, and check levels via pet store once a week.

    They say water hardness is up but other levels are good. Here's my naked tank:

    Don't worry about your hardness. Unless you're willing to switch to R/O or "drinking" water, you aren't going to be able to change it.

    Make sure you keep the tank topped off, bettas don't typically like strong water flow (although some do).
     

    Caleb

    Making whiskey, one batch at a time!
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Aug 11, 2008
    10,155
    63
    Columbus, IN
    Don't worry about your hardness. Unless you're willing to switch to R/O or "drinking" water, you aren't going to be able to change it.

    Make sure you keep the tank topped off, bettas don't typically like strong water flow (although some do).

    How long should I expect the cloudiness to stick around?
     

    Cpl. Klinger

    Sharpshooter
    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0
    Feb 8, 2012
    528
    18
    The 4077th
    How long should I expect the cloudiness to stick around?

    Usually you should be through the nitrogen cycle within three weeks. Doing too many water changes may be your problem as you're cutting down on your bacteria. My wife changes maybe 5-10% of the water in our freshwater tank a week, sometimes not that often. She tests the heck out of the water though, so that may aid in things. Oh, and to brag on our two tanks -

    Our 55 gallon freshwater:


    This is a fairly well established tank with 2 Shibunkens and 4 other goldfish and a pleco. They are characters, to say the least.

    Our 75 gallon saltwater:


    Ths tank is about a month old, and we're still cycling it (note to anyone wanting to start a saltwater tank - nothing good happens fast - expect it to take several months to get the tank stable). We nearing the end of the diatom bloom, and we've got 2 green chromis, a blue devil damsel and our cleanup crew (three turbo snails and 5 blue hermit crabs). We have numerous hitchikers from the live rock that are making things interesting. This has been a fun tank to set up, but it's a drain on the wallet. So far we've put about $1400 in it.
     

    varadatt

    Marksman
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Mar 17, 2013
    163
    16
    Castleton
    How long should I expect the cloudiness to stick around?


    It could take a while with only one fish in the tank. The cloudiness will go away once your tank "establishes" itself. As food and fish pooh breakdown in the water the will create a bacterial balance.
    One thing to remember is never change to many things at once ie the filters, water change etc.
     

    IndyBeerman

    Was a real life Beerman.....
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Jun 2, 2008
    7,700
    113
    Plainfield
    Didn't want to create a new thread, so I'll revive this one...This is my first fish tank, been up and running about a month or a little more, water is still cloudy from my understanding of the nitrogen cycle that needs to be completed. I do 10-25% water change a week(sometimes twice a week), couple days ago I switched from the junk top fin filter to an aquaclear 30 in my 10 gal tank, and check levels via pet store once a week.

    They say water hardness is up but other levels are good. Here's my naked tank:

    I used to have a 75 gallon tank, had a under ground filter system and did a 60% change once a month while monitoring ph levels.

    It would be cleared up in about 2-3 days

    Of course I used a model similar to this:
    Marineland Magnum 350 Deluxe Filter System at Petco

    I also used one of the water powered hose kits to drain and refill, on the drain I would hook it up to the underground tubes and suck all the crap out that the tube plunge would not get.

    We had about 65 inches of fish in the tank including a 8 inch plecostomus and 2 Bala Sharks, one 7 inches and the other 8, the 8 incher was about 7 years old, and when we sold the house, let the new owners keep the tank.

    One of their relatives worked @ Specks Pet store and was amazed because they had never seen them that big before.

    If you ever decide to get one of those beautiful Bala Sharks, watch it when you clean the tank because they are leapers. That's the reason for the smaller one, the larger ones brother decided to launch himself out of the tank 5 feet, unfortunately for him, it was into a glass hurricane candle holder, shattering it. :(

    Loved watching the fish, but after all those years of just me cleaning it and no help from the wife, I don't miss the tank after cleaning it 12 years.
     

    Caleb

    Making whiskey, one batch at a time!
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Aug 11, 2008
    10,155
    63
    Columbus, IN
    should I limit my cycle change down to once a month? How do you guys clean the gravel without doing a water change? I really wish I was able to get a 50+ gallon fish tank, I'm enjoying taking care of fish...
     

    varadatt

    Marksman
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Mar 17, 2013
    163
    16
    Castleton
    should I limit my cycle change down to once a month? How do you guys clean the gravel without doing a water change? I really wish I was able to get a 50+ gallon fish tank, I'm enjoying taking care of fish...

    Look on Craigslist. Someone always has a good tank they are trying to get rid of. And the bigger the tank the easier they are to take care of once setup. I used to have a 75gl with Lake Malawi cichlids that was just awesome once going.

    As for the water change in a 10gl I won't be much use to you. I always had a hose that would hook up to the faucet and would clean the gravel.
     

    Caleb

    Making whiskey, one batch at a time!
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Aug 11, 2008
    10,155
    63
    Columbus, IN
    Look on Craigslist. Someone always has a good tank they are trying to get rid of. And the bigger the tank the easier they are to take care of once setup. I used to have a 75gl with Lake Malawi cichlids that was just awesome once going.

    As for the water change in a 10gl I won't be much use to you. I always had a hose that would hook up to the faucet and would clean the gravel.

    My mother in law has a 55 gal she would give me, gotta find a space to put it.
     

    IndyBeerman

    Was a real life Beerman.....
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Jun 2, 2008
    7,700
    113
    Plainfield
    Look on Craigslist. Someone always has a good tank they are trying to get rid of. And the bigger the tank the easier they are to take care of once setup. I used to have a 75gl with Lake Malawi cichlids that was just awesome once going.

    As for the water change in a 10gl I won't be much use to you. I always had a hose that would hook up to the faucet and would clean the gravel.

    ^^^^
    This

    Mine now that I have been thinking about it was called the Python, valve on the faucet hook up would either use the water to suck the water out, out turn it and it could fill it back up with it.

    I'd use the gravel attachment and plunge, the unscrew the gravel plunger and hold it to the under gravel filter tubes, you would be amazed on how much debris it would get out.

    1/2 hour clean and refill using it.
    094036075148C.jpg


    We had the 50 foot one, comes in 25-50-75-100 foot lengths.

    It was worth every penny I paid for it, plus when you filled the tank back up you did not stir up any debris that you did not get out.
     

    bobbittle

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    14   0   0
    Sep 19, 2011
    1,670
    38
    West side
    should I limit my cycle change down to once a month? How do you guys clean the gravel without doing a water change? I really wish I was able to get a 50+ gallon fish tank, I'm enjoying taking care of fish...

    You shouldn't be changing any water or touching the gravel for the first 6-8 weeks the tank is running.

    After that, once a week, 10% water change w/gravel cleaning if you can manage it. If you can't, just as often as possible, increasing the % accordingly with the time between cleanings.
     

    Site Supporter

    INGO Supporter

    Forum statistics

    Threads
    530,713
    Messages
    9,957,767
    Members
    54,919
    Latest member
    Steve44
    Top Bottom