Fanatical religious terrorist incident Colorado Springs.

[Kutnupe14]

Says the one first to apply double standards in certain topics.

If you're going to make that claim, qualify it. I think I am way more even keeled, and fair, than most members. So I'd be interested in you posting examples of my hypocrisy.

Kut (knows some folks simply like to post nonsense)

 

[Kutnupe14]

It's pretty shocking that someone who specializes in getting to the facts of crime before making public pronouncements would so quickly and eagerly hint that prudence and investigations should be subordinated to furthering a political agenda,

Lol, newsflash. I'm not investigating the crime. Don't con me bro, I am entitled to my opinion about anything just as you are.

 

[chipbennett]

The mayor of Colorado Springs says authorities aren't ready to discuss a possible motive of the gunman who attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic there but says people can make "inferences from where it took place."

The Latest: Dad: Slain officer was figure skater, great dad

Well, it took place outside, and then the shooter holed up in the nearest building (a Planned Parenthood clinic). After several hours of being thus holed up, with other occupants being evacuated uninjured (as far as I'm aware?), while the shooter was exchanging gunfire with police officers, the shooter surrendered peacefully.

So: what, exactly, can one infer from such an incident?

 

[oldpink]

The mayor of Colorado Springs says authorities aren't ready to discuss a possible motive of the gunman who attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic there but says people can make "inferences from where it took place."

The Latest: Dad: Slain officer was figure skater, great dad

Oh, right, I forgot that we should take the word directly from anti-gun Democrats all too eager to ghoulishly attempt to gain political advantage from tragedy.
Does the name Sheriff Dupnik ring a bell?
Okay, for those who forgot - Sheriff Clarence Dupnik: Arizona 'Mecca For Prejudice & Bigotry'

 

[chipbennett]

Consider the source

COURT RECORDS: Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooter NOT Republican, Identifies as Woman - The Gateway Pundit


Sounds like ABC Brian Ross levels of journalism

I know Jim. I've protested with him (supporting democratic elections in Honduras) when I lived in St. Louis. I like him as a person. But his blog is long on sensationalism, and short on journalism.

 

[oldpink]

Lol, newsflash. I'm not investigating the crime. Don't con me bro, I am entitled to my opinion about anything just as you are.

Correction: a prepackaged opinion loaded and ready to be launched from the torpedo tube any time there's even a remote chance to blame someone politically.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Correction: a prepackaged opinion loaded and ready to be launched from the torpedo tube any time there's even a remote chance to blame someone politically.

Are we talking about Conservative Jihadists, or something else?

 

[chipbennett]

Are we talking about Conservative Jihadists, or something else?

Are these two words intentionally juxtaposed for maximum inflammatory effect, or do you have an ostensibly legitimate definition for this term?

 

[printcraft]

The mayor of Colorado Springs says authorities aren't ready to discuss a possible motive of the gunman who attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic there but says people can make "inferences from where it took place."

The Latest: Dad: Slain officer was figure skater, great dad

The priest that held service out front of PP for 20 years every Friday in the parking lot with 20 people was the likely target.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

I hope you understand that the "facts" the mayor has, trumps the "facts" you have. So like I said, I'm playing the odds.

No, you are jumping to conclusions. I'm NOT saying that you are wrong - not saying you are right... What I am saying is this: a) you'd be all OVER our collective ass for jumping to conclusions. b) yet you are doing it with glee and bells on c) hence, that makes you a hypocrite d) we'll know if this cat was mentally ill, right wing, left wing etc soon enough - no need for jumping to conclusions. e) whatever he is, I take no joy in the loss of good people. And the officer and folks that have been involved seem to be innocent victims.

 

[Kutnupe14]

No, you are jumping to conclusions. I'm NOT saying that you are wrong - not saying you are right... What I am saying is this: a) you'd be all OVER our collective ass for jumping to conclusions. b) yet you are doing it with glee and bells on c) hence, that makes you a hypocrite d) we'll know if this cat was mentally ill, right wing, left wing etc soon enough - no need for jumping to conclusions. e) whatever he is, I take no joy in the loss of good people. And the officer and folks that have been involved seem to be innocent victims.

Word on the street, is that he leans to the right.

 

[KG1]

Well, it took place outside, and then the shooter holed up in the nearest building (a Planned Parenthood clinic). After several hours of being thus holed up, with other occupants being evacuated uninjured (as far as I'm aware?), while the shooter was exchanging gunfire with police officers, the shooter surrendered peacefully.

So: what, exactly, can one infer from such an incident?

Yeah this is what appears to be the case so for as I can tell. The media is still labeling it as an "attack on a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Clinic" when they have yet to provide any supporting evidence that suggests the clinic itself was targeted.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Are these two words intentionally juxtaposed for maximum inflammatory effect, or do you have an ostensibly legitimate definition for this term?

He bro, I started innocently enough. You know better than most, than I'm not going to at the bottom of a dog pile. If get the chain, in hand, I'm gonna tug.

 

[chezuki]

 

[chipbennett]

No, you are jumping to conclusions. I'm NOT saying that you are wrong - not saying you are right... What I am saying is this: a) you'd be all OVER our collective ass for jumping to conclusions. b) yet you are doing it with glee and bells on c) hence, that makes you a hypocrite d) we'll know if this cat was mentally ill, right wing, left wing etc soon enough - no need for jumping to conclusions. e) whatever he is, I take no joy in the loss of good people. And the officer and folks that have been involved seem to be innocent victims.

We do know some things about the shooter, so far:

1. He was a loner and a recluse
2. He had minor run-ins with the law, involving animal cruelty and accusations of being a "peeping tom"
3. He was registered "unaffiliated" as a voter
4. He self-identified as a woman

This, so far, has the makings of a run-of-the-mill nutcase.

There remains no evidence disclosed that he targeted (or even injured?) any of the Planned Parenthood clinic staff or patients. But should such evidence come out - or evidence that his motives were anti-abortion in nature - the right, conservatives, Christians, and the Pro-Life movement will come out unequivocally against his actions. So it doesn't bother me one way or the other. I would oppose him, regardless of his motives.

But it is obvious that the OP isn't the only one trying for a Tom Smykowski award. I don't remember Kut's reaction to some of the other incidents, so I won't call his reaction here hypocritical. But a glance at social media will show such hypocrisy, in spades.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

Word on the street, is that he leans to the right.

Fair enough - I don't have the "super secret cop hotline to Colorado Springs". My daughter lives there - but that's as close as I can get.

Assuming that to be true , AND assuming that he was after PP - then he's a damned ineffective terrorist, since from the reports, he didn't get even the first one of the targets he was purportedly after. All were, according to "word on the street" , collateral damage as opposed to primary targets.

My money, for the record, is more on the lines of mentally ill / paranoid type. Whether he's right or left leaning will prove to be immaterial. And the PP office was not the target.

If that turns out to be the case, will any who have wrongfully maligned those who are pro-life or lean to the right, have the intellectual decency to apologize?

edit: chip- looks like you and I were thinking alike and about the same time.

 

[chipbennett]

He bro, I started innocently enough. You know better than most, than I'm not going to at the bottom of a dog pile. If get the chain, in hand, I'm gonna tug.

Keep pulling. The most plausible outcome is that you're going to be yanking on a run-of-the-mill, rabid nutcase dog at the other end - not some anti-abortion domestic terrorist.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Keep pulling. The most plausible outcome is that you're going to be yanking on a run-of-the-mill, rabid nutcase dog at the other end - not some anti-abortion domestic terrorist.

Very possibility, that's the horse you're picking, and I doubt you'll hear near as much lip as I have, over your opinion.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

At first, this appeared to be a bank robbery gone bad. It was reported that the shooter started out in Chase Bank.

Since then, we don't have a lot of new information.

The guy is caught so we'll get more info over the next few days. I don't see where arguing about it here does much good.

Write it in your journal - I actually agree with Alpo for once... We'll get the truth soon enough.

 

[chipbennett]

Very possibility, that's the horse you're picking, and I doubt you'll hear near as much lip as I have, over your opinion.

The Truth Has No Agenda. If different facts come to light, I have no problem altering my analysis of those facts. As of yet, though, I've not picked a horse.