Elmore's/thread lock/FFL questions

[smitty12b]

So what's accomplished by this? You run one of the better local gun stores out of business? I'm really not one of the anti-government types that populate this board that think any kind of government agency is the devil, but I don't understand why you think this is a good idea.

Elmore's, for the most part, has nothing but a good reputation, on this board and in the local gun community in general. They have, by far, the best selection of 1911's in the Indianapolis area, if not the state, and have consistently reasonable prices.

What's going to happen now, with your running off and reporting minor infractions, is the ATF is going to come down with the hammer and run another good business out of existence. Let the ATF do their jobs. Don't do it for them.

If they are doing thing like this then they are not one of the "better local gun shops". Would you consider it a "minor infraction" if a illegally purchased weapon was used against someone you care about? If they are not checking people then who knows who they are selling to.

 

[rightwingmilitia]

If you were me would you want a straw purchase or out the door purchase going to steve deputy?

He could easily get to here from elmores.... and knows where my girls mom and stepdad live.... Out the door with a gun and maybe ammo before a check is done....

 

[E5RANGER375]

can someone with knowledge please comment on this if its true:

this is hearsay because i dont know it as fact, but id like to know the truth. was told a while back that elmore had another gun shop but lost his FFL for shady business dealings, and that the new shop is in his wifes name because he cant get another FFL. is this true?

 

[MACHINEGUN]

Heaven forbid if members of INGO have a different opinion than the owner or moderators.. that is a crime in itself.

 

[rimfire_crazed]

not on the list of revocations in the last five years.

 

[rightwingmilitia]

+1 to machinegun apparently Im all out of rep to give

 

[smitty12b]

Heaven forbid if members of INGO have a different opinion than the owner or moderators.. that is a crime in itself.

HMMMM..very interesting

 

[E5RANGER375]

not on the list of revocations in the last five years.

it would have been a lot longer back than that. maybe 10 years or more

 

[IndyMonkey]

Heaven forbid if members of INGO have a different opinion than the owner or moderators.. that is a crime in itself.

Sir, posting something like that will get you negative rep, Pm's and hurt feelings. Just wanted you to know what you are getting into.

 

[MACHINEGUN]

Sir, posting something like that will get you negative rep, Pm's and hurt feelings. Just wanted you to know what you are getting into.

So be it.. or maybe even a deleted post or posts with no explanation of why it was deleted is more accurate.. at least that seems to be the case with me as of late.

 

[rightwingmilitia]

same here machinegun..... my posts get deleted but there is a thread on bacon flavored cupcakes

all the threads i got rep in that were deleted just say whorin on my rep page

 

[E5RANGER375]

please dont get this thread closed. open a moderator bashing thread. im just wanting to keep people aware of the gun shop legality issue here. and nothing else

 

[MACHINEGUN]

I must be right.. I'm sure getting a lot of positive rep for my comment... now back on topic so this thread isn't closed also!

 

[jedi]

+1 to machinegun apparently Im all out of rep to give

Got him for you.

Back to the topic @ hand. Can't recall who did the speculation about the gun coming "in" illegally and then being sold illegally.

Say this is the case lets add something else to the mix. Say the gun that came in was used in a crime BEFORE it came in. Now say buyer has some type of interaction with LEO (pulled over and LEO inspects gun and finds out it was in a crime.) What occurs to the gun and the buyer.

Yes for the immediate time the buyer probably goes to jail until he gets his reciept showing he bought the gun at xyz. But afterwards does he still get to keep the gun? I would imagaine the gun will be used in a trial so the LEO will retain custody but after the trial what then?

Thanks

 

[E5RANGER375]

Got him for you.

Back to the topic @ hand. Can't recall who did the speculation about the gun coming "in" illegally and then being sold illegally.

Say this is the case lets add something else to the mix. Say the gun that came in was used in a crime BEFORE it came in. Now say buyer has some type of interaction with LEO (pulled over and LEO inspects gun and finds out it was in a crime.) What occurs to the gun and the buyer.

Yes for the immediate time the buyer probably goes to jail until he gets his reciept showing he bought the gun at xyz. But afterwards does he still get to keep the gun? I would imagaine the gun will be used in a trial so the LEO will retain custody but after the trial what then?

Thanks

i was the one speculating.

good point you make. the buyer would be out all his money, except if he won a sute against the gun shop, and not even one night in jail is worth it because of someone elses mistake.

 

[Scutter01]

same here machinegun..... my posts get deleted but there is a thread on bacon flavored cupcakes

all the threads i got rep in that were deleted just say whorin on my rep page

Nope, your posts were mysteriously deleted because you were banned over the weekend for deliberately trying to sidestep the site rules. That was a temporary ban until you then decided to create no less than half a dozen new accounts, some of which were used to berate the staff for your first banning. All of those were also banned. We allowed you to continue on with this latest persona, but it's clear that your first banning was entirely appropriate. We're going to go ahead and ban this account, too, ArmyMP.

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

Nope, your posts were mysteriously deleted because you were banned over the weekend for deliberately trying to sidestep the site rules. That was a temporary ban until you then decided to create no less than half a dozen new accounts, some of which were used to berate the staff for your first banning. All of those were also banned. We allowed you to continue on with this latest persona, but it's clear that your first banning was entirely appropriate. We're going to go ahead and ban this account, too, ArmyMP.

That guy is ArmyMP? Man, this makes a lot more sense now.

 

[r3126]

I'm trying to time this JUST right! I want to be the last post IBTL.

 

[E5RANGER375]

WOW, ArmyMP, i had no idea, but now some of the post seem similar.

 

[jedi]

i was the one speculating.

good point you make. the buyer would be out all his money, except if he won a sute against the gun shop, and not even one night in jail is worth it because of someone elses mistake.

True but does one ever really know if the gun they are buying from a gun store has not been used in a crime before? I'm not talking about a new gun still in the box which has never been fired (apart from the test fire done at the manf). But all the "used" guns that they have for sale. How are those checked?