Democrats and gun control

[oldpink]

Bet she'll get the kids this:

I saw this at Barnes & Noble on Monday. Made me sick.

Reminds of that classic joke:
Did you hear that the New York City Public Library burned to the ground?
It was a real tragedy; all three books were destroyed and two hadn't even been colored in yet.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Reminds of that classic joke:
Did you hear that the New York City Public Library burned to the ground?
It was a real tragedy; all three books were destroyed and two hadn't even been colored in yet.

That's what you get for reading between the lions.

 

[longbarrel]

You do understand that if Bernie gets what he wants (get rid of the legal protections for manufacturers and retailers) gun prices will sky rocket until they end up being bankrupted by legal costs. That was why the law was passed to begin with, your fellow flyers made the decision to sue gun makers out of business.

That would be great. We will all be able to retire early. Sell part of our collections and move on. Wait a minute, no that would be bad, There would be 347 million guns that would no longer be able to have warranty work done on them, wait, that could be good, we could go to gunsmith school, buy a bunch of equipment, rent a building with all of the money we made from selling our firearms, and start working on firearms that are not functioning properly/unsafe, wait a minute,, that is already being done.

 

[Spear Dane]

After the first democratic debate last night one thing was made very clear, all five participants want to change the 2nd amendment and will push for more severe gun control laws. How can anybody who supports gun rights like those on this forum, vote for a democrat that wants to take our rights away? This participants are not stupid, but evil, in what they want to do to gun shops and gun owners all across this once great country. Anybody that votes for today's democrats is unpatriotic and anti-American in this country today.

Who side are you on?

I would respectfully suggest that being a single issue voter is unpatriotic as is being a 'slate' voter. Case in point: The Kokomo Mayors race. Incumbent is a 2 term Dem. IMHO he has done a marvelous job in turning the city around after it was well on the way to becoming another auto industry ghost town. He gets my vote. The only national level candidate that might have got my attention has chosen not to run. I look at the whole of the persons beliefs, not one thing. That being said, I feel the 2nd amendment is extremely important in keeping this country free. As has been said...armed people are citizens, the disarmed are subjects.

 

[actaeon277]

Obama wants nationwide gun laws to fill in gaps left by local efforts - LA Times
[h=1]Obama wants nationwide gun laws to fill in gaps left by local efforts[/h]

Critics say the stream of deadly shootings are proof that gun laws don’t work, given the tough stance Chicago officials adopted toward gun ownership in the 1980s and 1990s.

But Obama’s team believes that Chicago, with its 408 homicides so far this year, is evidence of the need for exactly what he’s pushing: national laws that make it harder to get around the local restrictions simply by driving across a state or city line.
“It’s the patchwork of laws that doesn’t serve us,” said one Obama advisor. “People just go to other jurisdictions with looser laws.”


Eugene Kontorovich, a professor at Northwestern University Law School, who researches and writes on the subject. “That’s a reality that all who support gun control proposals have to keep in mind. The world is permeable.”

“The reality is that state and local borders are permeable,” Kontorovich said. “But national laws licensing laws will only regulate the legal market, not the black market.”

 

[Bill of Rights]

I'm not a single-issue voter, and I don't imagine most of us are. The totality of someone's position is of greatest importance in whether they get my vote or not. With that said, though, the 2A is my litmus test. If you don't pass that one, I'm looking at everyone else. I'll only come back to you if everyone is equally anti-2A or is worse than you are. (That is, neither Carson nor Trump is actually pro-2A, not like they should be. Everyone else in the race is worse, though, so I'm back to them. Put another way, Hillary could run on a platform of "no taxes for EMS workers, no laws applicable to them other than crimes of violence, and minimum wage for EMS being $80/hr (those of you in EMS know how laughably unrealistic that is)" and I would still not vote for her based on her 2A position. (Just in case it's not clear, I don't want those things, it was simply a set of examples that would in theory be in my favor, without costing other citizens tax increases, etc.)

Blessings,
Bill

I would respectfully suggest that being a single issue voter is unpatriotic as is being a 'slate' voter. Case in point: The Kokomo Mayors race. Incumbent is a 2 term Dem. IMHO he has done a marvelous job in turning the city around after it was well on the way to becoming another auto industry ghost town. He gets my vote. The only national level candidate that might have got my attention has chosen not to run. I look at the whole of the persons beliefs, not one thing. That being said, I feel the 2nd amendment is extremely important in keeping this country free. As has been said...armed people are citizens, the disarmed are subjects.

 

[cobber]

Obama wants nationwide gun laws to fill in gaps left by local efforts - LA Times
Obama wants nationwide gun laws to fill in gaps left by local efforts



Critics say the stream of deadly shootings are proof that gun laws don’t work, given the tough stance Chicago officials adopted toward gun ownership in the 1980s and 1990s.

But Obama’s team believes that Chicago, with its 408 homicides so far this year, is evidence of the need for exactly what he’s pushing: national laws that make it harder to get around the local restrictions simply by driving across a state or city line.
“It’s the patchwork of laws that doesn’t serve us,” said one Obama advisor. “People just go to other jurisdictions with looser laws.”


Eugene Kontorovich, a professor at Northwestern University Law School, who researches and writes on the subject. “That’s a reality that all who support gun control proposals have to keep in mind. The world is permeable.”

“The reality is that state and local borders are permeable,” Kontorovich said. “But national laws licensing laws will only regulate the legal market, not the black market.”

And then there's that pesky thing known as federalism. Of course it would be wonderful for the fed govt. if they could force their 'enlightened' laws down the States' and People's throats. Apparently that's barack's ideal. But it is NOT the system he was elected in and swore an oath to.

Clearly this man has no understanding of the Constitution or the American system. And ditto for his voters and supporters after seven years of fail.

 

[jamil]

I would respectfully suggest that being a single issue voter is unpatriotic as is being a 'slate' voter. Case in point: The Kokomo Mayors race. Incumbent is a 2 term Dem. IMHO he has done a marvelous job in turning the city around after it was well on the way to becoming another auto industry ghost town. He gets my vote. The only national level candidate that might have got my attention has chosen not to run. I look at the whole of the persons beliefs, not one thing. That being said, I feel the 2nd amendment is extremely important in keeping this country free. As has been said...armed people are citizens, the disarmed are subjects.

What about the single issue vagina voters?

 

[Hellhound1055]

I'll admit that my first time being able to vote, (Obama's second term) I voted for Obama. Looking back I should have voted for Johnson if I had actually heard about him. But, if I had to vote in that election again I still wouldn't vote for Mittens. Now this election I think is going to be a bigger pain with the current selection of candidates on either side. I'm generally a single issue person in regard to the 2A, but the 2016 election is just ugly across the board. In the end, unless a pro-2A democrat appears I'll end up having to vote republican..... and then take a few dozen showers afterwards.

 

[Expat]

When I read posts like that, it makes me happy that I can think back and reflect on my first vote being for President Reagan.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I would respectfully suggest that being a single issue voter is unpatriotic as is being a 'slate' voter. Case in point: The Kokomo Mayors race. Incumbent is a 2 term Dem. IMHO he has done a marvelous job in turning the city around after it was well on the way to becoming another auto industry ghost town. He gets my vote. The only national level candidate that might have got my attention has chosen not to run. I look at the whole of the persons beliefs, not one thing. That being said, I feel the 2nd amendment is extremely important in keeping this country free. As has been said...armed people are citizens, the disarmed are subjects.

All said and done, I am a single-issue voter and make no apology for it. The issue in question is the Constitution, as in read it, do what it says, and more important, don't do what it doesn't say. Get that much right and everything else will fall into place.

 

[Expat]

All said and done, I am a single-issue voter and make no apology for it. The issue in question is the Constitution, as in read it, do what it says, and more important, don't do what it doesn't say. Get that much right and everything else will fall into place.

I wonder how many Congress critters know there are enumerated powers in the Constitution and know what that means?

 

[MisterChester]

When I read posts like that, it makes me happy that I can think back and reflect on my first vote being for President Reagan.

Why? If he were to run today he'd get slammed for being too liberal.

 

[jbombelli]

Why? If he were to run today he'd get slammed for being too liberal.

Not likely in light of the relentless slideto the left that most of the country has taken over the last 30 years.

 

[jamil]

Why? If he were to run today he'd get slammed for being too liberal.

I think what you're trying to say is that the Republican Party has moved considerably "right" since Reagan. Perhaps the representation in congress has become more conservative, but the rank and file aren't really all that much different from how they were back then, except maybe they've gotten more pissed at the left. There's a reason why Republican conservatives look back on Reagan favorably. He's the last conservative President we've had.

Now, if we want to get right down to who has shifted most, the Democratic party's faux dredlocks would completely melt with uncontrollable rage if a Reagon-like president were elected today. If a guy like JFK were running today as a Democrat, he'd be booed off the stage much like Jim Webb was.

Not likely in light of the relentless slideto the left that most of the country has taken over the last 30 years.

Word.

 

[actaeon277]

'Demographic Death' Of NRA Just Another Big Media Myth - Investors.com

This Insane Argument Is Why Democrats Think They Can Gut Gun Rights - Bearing Arms - 2016 Elections, Second Amendment

 

[MisterChester]

I think what you're trying to say is that the Republican Party has moved considerably "right" since Reagan. Perhaps the representation in congress has become more conservative, but the rank and file aren't really all that much different from how they were back then, except maybe they've gotten more pissed at the left. There's a reason why Republican conservatives look back on Reagan favorably. He's the last conservative President we've had.

Now, if we want to get right down to who has shifted most, the Democratic party's faux dredlocks would completely melt with uncontrollable rage if a Reagon-like president were elected today. If a guy like JFK were running today as a Democrat, he'd be booed off the stage much like Jim Webb was.



Word.

Yes, this. If a republican running today supported gun-control, and increased spending like Reagan did he wouldn't last very long.

 

[singlemalt]

Democrats only want to change our Republic into a Democracy (of the Socialist flavor). They are stupid. They are traitors. They do not deserve to live here. As far as the whole "one issue" voter thing - if you know their position on the 2nd Amendment then you have a pretty clear view of their commitment to upholding the entire Constitution. I am now 63 years old and in my lifetime I have not seen one single "elected" President or candidate that respects the Constitution except for Ron Paul. Our Republic came with an instruction manual written in extremely clear and concise English. Not Spanish or Arabic or French or German. English. If our leaders would just follow the instructions and quit screwing around with "democracy" we would be the greatest country in the world (though probably not the most popular). The Founding Fathers had a pretty dim view of "democracy" because they were students of History. Democracy has led to ruin every single time it was tried. It has never produced anything but chaos and total collapse.

You sir Nialed It!

 

[oldpink]

Why? If he were to run today he'd get slammed for being too liberal.

Bovine Scatology

 

[CPT Nervous]

I'll admit that my first time being able to vote, (Obama's second term) I voted for Obama. Looking back I should have voted for Johnson if I had actually heard about him. But, if I had to vote in that election again I still wouldn't vote for Mittens. Now this election I think is going to be a bigger pain with the current selection of candidates on either side. I'm generally a single issue person in regard to the 2A, but the 2016 election is just ugly across the board. In the end, unless a pro-2A democrat appears I'll end up having to vote republican..... and then take a few dozen showers afterwards.

So you lived in Obamamerika for four years, and you voted him into a second term? You voted for the biggest socialist, anti-gun, anti-American piece of **** in the history of the world, and you still have the audacity to tell us that you're a single issue voter with regards to the 2A?