CIVIL RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION: All things Christianity

[JettaKnight]

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I don't know, all those things to memorize and then changing the names and dates of well know holidays and extra books in the Bible... doesn't sound stress free.

Then again, you get to discount the last 1000 years or so of theological developments, and freely use the phrase, "it's a mystery!" instead of having to choose pre-, post- or mid- tribulation.

 

[Woobie]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a rare exhibit of Orthodox haiku. Influenced from Greek minimalism before being adopted in the East (and we're talking FAAAAAR East), few people are aware of the true roots of such beautiful poetry.

Lol, I thought the same thing.

Although since it's near east, the correct term is not haiku. It's actually haekoupoulus, which is ironically a word longer than the poems.

 

[Woobie]

I don't know, all those things to memorize and then changing the names and dates of well know holidays and extra books in the Bible... doesn't sound stress free.

Then again, you get to discount the last 1000 years or so of theological developments, and freely use the phrase, "it's a mystery!" instead of having to choose pre-, post- or mid- tribulation.

On this I agree with the Orthodox. There have been no theological developments in the Bible over the last 1950 years. Only an evolution in the way it is understood. If it wasn't said by Christ or one of His apostles through divine inspiration, I am highly critical.

 

[T.Lex]

Lol, I thought the same thing.

Although since it's near east, the correct term is not haiku. It's actually haekoupoulus.

Wouldn't it be something more like haekouieoufonae?

 

[Woobie]

Wouldn't it be something more like haekouieoufonae?

It depends on the dialect.

 

[T.Lex]

It depends on the dialect.

Well, its all Greek to me.



(Yes, been waiting for that opportunity.)

 

[JettaKnight]

On this I agree with the Orthodox. There have been no theological developments in the Bible over the last 1950 years. Only an evolution in the way it is understood. If it wasn't said by Christ or one of His apostles through divine inspiration, I am highly critical.

I said developments in Theology, not "theological developments in the Bible". A development in theology is an advancement in our understanding of God. Although, you could say that defining the Canon is a development in the Bible, couldn't you?

These would well defined in the first century:
Concept of the Trinity
Hypostatic Union

And in the last 1000 years:

Wouldn't Sola .... or TULIP be considered a development?

What about systematic theology?

Dispensationalism?

I agree, these concepts aren't directly from divine inspiration, therefore we may and probably should be critical. Maybe "developments" isn't the right word; I'm open to suggestions.


EDIT:
The Catholics would use the term dogma in place of "theological developments", no? Do the Orthodox have a similar set of dogma or is it more of a pamphlet? (Semi-serious question)

 

[JettaKnight]

Well, its all Greek to me.



(Yes, been waiting for that opportunity.)

BRING BACK NEG REP!!!!!!

 

[T.Lex]

I'm open to suggestions.

Comfortable shoes. They just make the day go by better.

Or, in keeping with the thread, I guess sandals would work.

 

[Woobie]

I said developments in Theology, not "theological developments in the Bible". A development in theology is an advancement in our understanding of God. Although, you could say that defining the Canon is a development in the Bible, couldn't you?

These would well defined in the first century:
Concept of the Trinity
Hypostatic Union

And in the last 1000 years:

Wouldn't Sola .... or TULIP be considered a development?

What about systematic theology?

Dispensationalism?

I agree, these concepts aren't directly from divine inspiration, therefore we may and probably should be critical. Maybe "developments" isn't the right word; I'm open to suggestions.


EDIT:
The Catholics would use the term dogma in place of "theological developments", no? Do the Orthodox have a similar set of dogma or is it more of a pamphlet? (Semi-serious question)

I read too much into your other post. We seem to agree. Development seems less clunky than anything else that comes to mind.

 

[T.Lex]

The Catholics would use the term dogma in place of "theological developments", no? Do the Orthodox have a similar set of dogma or is it more of a pamphlet? (Semi-serious question)

LOL

I almost semi-facetiously suggested "dogma" as an alternate term. So, yeah, I think that's a decent synonym. I think Orthodox have "dogma" too, except they spell it "truth" for their own purposes.

 

[Woobie]

Well, its all Greek to me.



(Yes, been waiting for that opportunity.)

Well, I was waiting for an opportunity to call you T. Lex-icon. In that light, your pun isn't so bad.

 

[foszoe]

I don't know, all those things to memorize and then changing the names and dates of well know holidays and extra books in the Bible... doesn't sound stress free.

Then again, you get to discount the last 1000 years or so of theological developments, and freely use the phrase, "it's a mystery!" instead of having to choose pre-, post- or mid- tribulation.

Very little to memorize.
Nicene Creed.
Then just go to church.

We are simple folk.

 

[foszoe]

Orthodox dogma.

Nicene Creed

Canons of Seven Ecumenical Councils.

I am liking minimalism

Until misunderstood

 

[JettaKnight]

 

[foszoe]

Doctrinal development

Human invention

Not Orthodox

Christ and His Apostles

Dogma source

 

[T.Lex]

I feel like we've created a minimalist monster now.

 

[JettaKnight]

wow...understood.

 

[foszoe]

wow...understood.

Whew

Good

 

[historian]

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There are a couple of reasons I won't, but I appreciate the offer, and some time I will take you up on the offer to go to church with you, just to experience it.

As for Calvinists, I can live with them, unless they decided (or have predetermined) to make it obnoxiously front and center. I'm more concerned with bringing the lost to salvation and preaching the gospel, otherwise, the rest is pointless.