17 year old kid shot dead by Neighborhood Watch "Captain"

[HICKMAN]

I'm thinking this may not even get to trial.

 

[tv1217]

The case is probably going to hinge on how [STRIKE]good his legal team is and how good their expert witnesses are[/STRIKE] stupid the prosecutors are.

ftfy

 

[griffin]

I'm thinking this may not even get to trial.

Dismissed on May 8.

 

[Phil502]

You know even if it gets dismissed, the creeps have ruined Zimmermans peace of mind, he'll always be looking for someone to get him. Thats tragic if he really is completely innocent of any crime.

 

[jamil]

The case is probably going to hinge on how good his legal team is and how good their expert witnesses are.

And how unbiased the jurors are.

 

[Kutnupe14]

You know even if it gets dismissed, the creeps have ruined Zimmermans peace of mind, he'll always be looking for someone to get him. Thats tragic if he really is completely innocent of any crime.

IF doesn't come into play........... we'll never know. All ever know is whether there is enough to convict or not. And of course one can be guilty, and still not be convicted.

 

[Ted]

IF doesn't come into play........... we'll never know. All ever know is whether there is enough to convict or not. And of course one can be guilty, and still not be convicted.

The more tragic, of course, is one be innocent of the crime and still be tried....and quite possibly convicted.

For all the complaining that is heard of the criminal justice system that caters to the criminal, the Mike Nifongs of the world are out there everyday, using their prosecutorial discretion to pursue their own political agendas.

Such is the case with Zimmerman, as a Grand Jury was never convened.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The more tragic, of course, is one be innocent of the crime and still be tried....and quite possibly convicted.

For all the complaining that is heard of the criminal justice system that caters to the criminal, the Mike Nifongs of the world are out there everyday, using their prosecutorial discretion to pursue their own political agendas.

Such is the case with Zimmerman, as a Grand Jury was never convened.

Innocent and convicted, certainly tragic. Innocent and tired, perfectly acceptable.

 

[printcraft]

Innocent and tired, perfectly acceptable.

Well, with the exception of being financially ruined from having to hire an attorney to defend a bogus attempt at putting your can in jail for a politically expedient reason and having the specter of being put on trial in your community hanging over your head for the rest of your life I don't see the downside either.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Well, with the exception of being financially ruined from having to hire an attorney to defend a bogus attempt at putting your can in jail for a politically expedient reason and having the specter of being put on trial in your community hanging over your head for the rest of your life I don't see the downside either.

Sometimes that's the consequences of being dumb.

 

[churchmouse]

he wouldnt be the first or last if this is the case to be sacrificed for political reasons. i have no clue tho, i quit trying to learn the truth on this case a long time ago

jake

There in lies the rub bub...no truth out there that can be seen. All mixed in with the MSM political crap.

 

[printcraft]

Sometimes that's the consequences of being dumb.

Sometimes.......

Nifong http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3285862&page=1

 

[Ted]

Sometimes that's the consequences of being dumb.

So your position is that being dumb is acceptable enough for arrest, incarceration pending the conclusion of trial (weeks to months...and sometimes years), criminal trial, and subsequent financial ruin for the person arrested, as well as for his family.....so long as there is no conviction.

Yeah, that's perfectly logical.

ETA: .....with liberty, and justice, for all.

 

[jamil]

So your position is that being dumb is acceptable enough for arrest, incarceration pending trial, criminal trial, and subsequent financial ruin for the person arrested, as well as for his family.....so long as there is no conviction.

Yeah, that's perfectly logical.

I think he's just saying that dumb has its consequences. Even so, these are extraordinary unnatural circumstances contributing to the consequence.

 

[Ted]

I think he's just saying that dumb has its consequences. Even so, these are extraordinary unnatural circumstances contributing to the consequence.

I agree with consequences for being dumb.

Though I also believe that too many are too often victimized by those with a little bit of power, and that there are those in power that will pursue a political purpose, with the expressed reason to ruin a person or persons.....regardless of the consequences.

 

[Phil502]

So your position is that being dumb is acceptable enough for arrest, incarceration pending the conclusion of trial (weeks to months...and sometimes years), criminal trial, and subsequent financial ruin for the person arrested, as well as for his family.....so long as there is no conviction.

Yeah, that's perfectly logical.

ETA: .....with liberty, and justice, for all.

Innocent until proven guilty is only for the Intelligentsia.

 

[Expat]

So your position is that being dumb is acceptable enough for arrest, incarceration pending the conclusion of trial (weeks to months...and sometimes years), criminal trial, and subsequent financial ruin for the person arrested, as well as for his family.....so long as there is no conviction.

Yeah, that's perfectly logical.

ETA: .....with liberty, and justice, for all.

He was on record back at the start of this thread that the man's life should be ruined without any real investigation or due process. So at least he is consistent.

 

[bobzilla]

He was on record back at the start of this thread that the man's life should be ruined without any real investigation or due process. So at least he is consistent.

Correct. Wants him "to pay" without any trial or evidence.

 

[Kutnupe14]

He was on record back at the start of this thread that the man's life should be ruined without any real investigation or due process. So at least he is consistent.

I already know all the facts that temper my opinion.
-Martin was doing nothing wrong initially
-Zimmerman didn't like the way Martin "looked" so he followed him
-Zimmerman didn't want to wait for the police so he got out of his truck
-Martin had no idea if Zimmerman was friend or foe, and attempted to evade him
-Confrontation ensues
-Martin Dead
-Dead men (sorry juveniles) tell no tales

Zimmerman's actions were dumb, and possibly quite legal, and yet someone lost their life. Someone commits a dumb legal act that directly, or incorrectly, causes someone to lose their life, I HAVE NO ISSUE with their life being henceforth ruined. I'm sure they are plenty of people that would rather have a ruined life than be dead.

Sue me, sometime the court of public opinion carries more weight.

 

[buckwacker]

I already know all the facts that temper my opinion.
-Martin was doing nothing wrong initially
-Zimmerman didn't like the way Martin "looked" so he followed him
-Zimmerman didn't want to wait for the police so he got out of his truck
-Martin had no idea if Zimmerman was friend or foe, and attempted to evade him
-Confrontation ensues
-Martin Dead
-Dead men (sorry juveniles) tell no tales

Zimmerman's actions were dumb, and possibly quite legal, and yet someone lost their life. Someone commits a dumb legal act that directly, or incorrectly, causes someone to lose their life, I HAVE NO ISSUE with their life being henceforth ruined. I'm sure they are plenty of people that would rather have a ruined life than be dead.

Sue me, sometime the court of public opinion carries more weight.

Then we will expect the same sentiment if you or another officer ever makes a mistake in your official capacity and something bad happens. I wont be holding my breath though.