Vaccines and stuff: Pt 2

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yep. Some people will still get covid after the vaccine. Just like the flu shot. The severity is much reduced however. My son has had it twice despite his vaccines. The rest of us have not, event though we live in the same house. His symptoms were very mild compared to 1 cousin and 1 uncle of mine. BOTH DIED ON A VENTILATOR.

Ventilators were killing people. Vaccines did not stop people from dying. Advising people to stay indoors, not get exercise, take their vitamin D, and preventing them from obtaining therapeutic drugs, etc. killed people.

 

[Ingomike]

Plenty of real science out there that is publicly available.

Plenty of real science out there that is publicly available that show the wuwho flu vaccine doesn’t work and is killing people, most of it directly from the government's own data...

 

[chipbennett]

The covid vaccine is 0% effective at stopping the catching or transmission.

The covid vaccine causes the body to produce proteins that are supposed to “teach the body” but it doesn’t. Instead they travel through out the body causing inflammation, clots, etc.

Even on a good year a flu vaccine is no better than 30-something% efficasious. Most years, it’s less and sometimes less than that.

Even the flu vaccine, to whatever level it’s effective at least lasts for most if not all the flu season…unlike the covid vaccines.

...the very reason I don't take the flu vaccine. My inherent immunity does a better job, and I'm nowhere near an at-risk demographic.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

The Covid vaccine didn't achieve that end point. You can't provide any clinical data that say otherwise. And in fact, current data show that infection/reinfection among the vaccinated is currently higher than among those not vaccinated.

And since I want to help you with the First Rule of Holes: I've worked in pharmaceutical manufacturing for almost 25 years (most of that time in aseptic processing, so let's talk about masks, too). I'm mRNA vaccinated. I helped companies manufacture the mRNA and other vaccines and other treatments. I also know how to read clinical data and regulatory filings.

So if you are in risk management what is the over/under on not getting the vaccine compared to getting it in terms of reaction and risk?

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Plenty of real science out there that is publicly available that show the wuwho flu vaccine doesn’t work and is killing people, most of it directly from the government's own data...

Nope. Just Nope.

 

[chipbennett]

So if you are in risk management what is the over/under on not getting the vaccine compared to getting it in terms of reaction and risk?

How about you present data to that effect, since you're the one making the claim.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different?

Keeping up with COVID-19 vaccines can be a daunting task. To help people keep up, Yale Medicine mapped out a comparison of the most prominent ones.

www.yalemedicine.org

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Infections will still happen. It's an influenza of course but death and hospitalizations are significantly down for those that are immunized.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Long-term effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against infections, hospitalisations, and mortality in adults: findings from a rapid living systematic evidence synthesis and meta-analysis up to December, 2022

Synthesising evidence on the long-term vaccine effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines (BNT162b2 [Pfizer–BioNTech], mRNA-1273 [Moderna], ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 [AZD1222; Oxford–AstraZeneca], and Ad26.COV2.S [Janssen]) against infections, hospitalisations, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.

www.cdc.gov

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Interim analysis of COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against Severe Acute Respiratory Infection due to SARS-CoV-2 in individuals aged 20 years and older – fourth update

This update reports on one of the ECDC multi-country studies that is centred around the hospital setting and severe disease, with the aim of assessing vaccine effectiveness against severe acuterespiratory infection (SARI) due to laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 within the ECDC...

www.ecdc.europa.eu

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(22)00390-1/fulltext

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

I lost 2 family members before the mrna vaccine. None after.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.

www.cdc.gov

LOL..the CDC director is still telling people to keep wearing masks.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Ventilators were killing people. Vaccines did not stop people from dying. Advising people to stay indoors, not get exercise, take their vitamin D, and preventing them from obtaining therapeutic drugs, etc. killed people.

Ventilators kill people!!?? Aaaaaaahahahahaha. Oh man. Thanks. I needed to chuckle.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I lost 2 family members before the mrna vaccine. None after.

Correlation does not equate to causality. My mother in law got the shot and then caught covid before she died.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

LOL..the CDC director is still telling people to keep wearing masks.

Uh.. that isn't what that article says...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Ventilators kill people!!?? Aaaaaaahahahahaha. Oh man. Thanks. I needed to chuckle.

You are obviously 3 years behind in the data.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Uh.. that isn't what that article says...

I didn’t need to read your propaganda to know that I’ve seen her on video say what I asserted.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Correlation does not equate to causality. My mother in law got the shot and then caught covid before she died.

Except that both of them died from covid...