UAW On Strike

[Creedmoor]

At the risk of pissing people off........I got a question. Why don't the big 3 just start hiring new people to replace the striking UAW employees jobs/hire scabs? I would think that would be the proper way to find out if the money they pay is considered fair or not. If people are unwilling to go to work for GM, Ford or Dodge, we will know the strikers are right........but if people line up for jobs, then what?

On another note.....I remember when my family use to go on strike at the coal mines in Virginia/West Virginia.......them strikes use to get violent when scabs crossed the lines.

I am neither for or against unions......I really could care less, since I swore off American cars I have no horse in the race.

Where are these employees going to come from?

 

[Creedmoor]

Which is wrong. And illegal.

So is speeding and drunk driving, but yet it happens everyday.

I started in the elevator Trade in Baltimore, you dont cross a line in that town.
I still have family in the mines of WV, you definitely don't cross a line in that State.

 

[jamil]

Where are these employees going to come from?

Presumably the local communities wherever they build.

 

[jamil]

So is speeding and drunk driving, but yet it happens everyday.

Which isn't really relevant.

I started in the elevator Trade in Baltimore, you dont cross a line in that town.
I still have family in the mines of WV, you definitely don't cross a line in that State.

Which kinda implies they're thugs.

 

[CHCRandy]

Where are these employees going to come from?

What employees....the scabs? If so, I guess from Wal-Mart, DG, Lowes, Home Depot, unemployment office, warehouses in Plainfield, Mexico........

 

[Creedmoor]

Presumably the local communities wherever they build.

OK, where does just the Fort Wayne Plant get over 4,000 hourly workers?

Answer, They are not there.

 

[Creedmoor]

What employees....the scabs? If so, I guess from Wal-Mart, DG, Lowes, Home Depot, unemployment office, warehouses in Plainfield, Mexico........

I wondered when that word would be used. lol

 

[sadclownwp]

Which is wrong. And illegal.

Private security company or self security and the 2nd Amendment is all you should need to safely cross a picket line. If anyone crossing the line is in danger, than that shows you the quality of the people you had working for you. I would think any sane company would want to replace any worker who endangered someone willing to cross the picket line.

 

[jamil]

OK, where does just the Fort Wayne Plant get over 4,000 hourly workers?

Answer, They are not there.

You don't think that there are 4000 workers with worse jobs than GM who might quit to move up to that?

 

[Creedmoor]

Which isn't really relevant.

Which kinda implies they're thugs.

Call it whatever you want. The reality is, You cross a Union Picket line in some American towns, you're gonna get a ass beat. And thats if your lucky.

 

[Creedmoor]

You don't think that there are 4000 workers with worse jobs than GM who might quit to move up to that?

Nope. Seen it, many times.

 

[CHCRandy]

I wondered when that word would be used. lol

You didn't think Joe opened the border for no reason did you? We always follow the money on this board. He figures get them here where they can vote, work, shop, buy houses and pay taxes.........rather than have Ford go to Mexico where we get no tax, sell no homes and he gets no votes, lol.

What a mess we live in now days.

 

[sadclownwp]

OK, where does just the Fort Wayne Plant get over 4,000 hourly workers?

Answer, They are not there.

I'd say Indeed, Linked In, high school graduating classes, college grads. Should not take more than 3 weeks to hire 4000 applicants, and another 3-6 weeks to train the new ones.
My uncle is sitting next to me right now, he worked at the Ft. Wayne plant. I just asked him. It took 2 weeks to get hired after applying, and then he was on the job working his position within 7 days after walking into the plant for the first time.
Pretty sure the whole Ft. Wayne plant is replaceable in less than 5 weeks.

 

[jamil]

Private security company or self security and the 2nd Amendment is all you should need to safely cross a picket line. If anyone crossing the line is in danger, than that shows you the quality of the people you had working for you. I would think any sane company would want to replace any worker who endangered someone willing to cross the picket line.

This.

Thing is, I'm a firm believer in avoiding places I would not go if unarmed. I know I would likely meet violence there and would probably have to defend myself. I don't want to shoot a pissed off union worker just to cross a picket line, so I wouldn't do it. But. For their part. They shouldn't act like bitch ass thugs either.

 

[jamil]

Nope. Seen it, many times.

Really. You've seen a company whose employees are on strike, offer those jobs to other people, and there were not enough workers to take it?

Or. Is it more like they won't cross the picket line because of the threat of violence?

Which are you saying?

 

[CHCRandy]

I'd say Indeed, Linked In, high school graduating classes, college grads. Should not take more than 3 weeks to hire 4000 applicants, and another 3-6 weeks to train the new ones.
My uncle is sitting next to me right now, he worked at the Ft. Wayne plant. I just asked him. It took 2 weeks to get hired after applying, and then he was on the job working his position within 7 days after walking into the plant for the first time.
Pretty sure the whole Ft. Wayne plant is replaceable in less than 5 weeks.

I just read where GM hired scabs for $14-15 an hour.......so apparently people are willing to work a lot cheaper than I thought they would and I guess this answers my original question.

 

[Creedmoor]

I'd say Indeed, Linked In, high school graduating classes, college grads. Should not take more than 3 weeks to hire 4000 applicants, and another 3-6 weeks to train the new ones.
My uncle is sitting next to me right now, he worked at the Ft. Wayne plant. I just asked him. It took 2 weeks to get hired after applying, and then he was on the job working his position within 7 days after walking into the plant for the first time.
Pretty sure the whole Ft. Wayne plant is replaceable in less than 5 weeks.

Not a chance.

Hers a bit of insider info, my bestie worked HR and Contracts in two different GM plants in the last five years. Those here that work in Marion all know my girl.

 

[jamil]

Call it whatever you want. The reality is, You cross a Union Picket line in some American towns, you're gonna get a ass beat. And thats if your lucky.

Which is not behavior to brag about.

 

[jamil]

Not a chance.

Hers a bit of insider info, my bestie worked HR and Contracts in two different GM plants in the last five years. Those here that work in Marion all know my girl.

I’m skeptical that a town of FW’s size could not find 4K workers. But we all know this is moot, because GM isn’t gonna hire people to replace the union workers. If they were gonna do that, they’d move the operations to a state that’s nonunion.

 

[Creedmoor]

Really. You've seen a company whose employees are on strike, offer those jobs to other people, and there were not enough workers to take it?

Or. Is it more like they won't cross the picket line because of the threat of violence?

Which are you saying?

Both,
I was offered a job not long ago. I was to be trained with a few hundred others in one State and in 40-50 days or so go to another State to work in another plant.
I told myself, this is odd behavior, with the head hunter not telling me what plants I would be working in.
I surfed online and it was a Locomotive manufacturer. I called the head hunter back and asked if the second plant was a Union Plant and he said , why?
I asked if we were going to be asked if we were going to cross lines?
He said yes, if they go on strike. I responded with I'll pass.
He said I wasn't the first to tell him that.

If one crosses a picket line, be careful.