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[printcraft]

Meanwhile this is the kind of stuff hillary does to the press:

That's for the reporters safety, too close and you might get slimed.

 

[17 squirrel]

If voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it (something like that)
-Mark Twain (I think)

You must have learned that at college..

 

[Kutnupe14]

You must have learned that at college..

Learned lots of stuff.... but I don't think that was one of them Ole Sam C. wasn't my preferred literary figure.

 

[Tombs]

If voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it (something like that)
-Mark Twain (I think)

One of the dumbest statements in American history. Welcome to pure, unbridled apathy, the kind that has continually pushed the country down the gutter.

 

[Kutnupe14]

One of the dumbest statements in American history. Welcome to pure, unbridled apathy, the kind that has continually pushed the country down the gutter.

Dumbest? How so? There's LOTS of truth to that statement.

 

[Tombs]

Dumbest? How so? There's LOTS of truth to that statement.

It's pure apathy.

If you think elections are pointless, then why are we even discussing politics, why are we even considering candidates? All of this matters, dismissing it is absurd.

I have many more things I would say about this, but I'd rather not be banned.

 

[Kutnupe14]

It's pure apathy.

If you think elections are pointless, then why are we even discussing politics, why are we even considering candidates? All of this matters, dismissing it is absurd.

I have many more things I would say about this, but I'd rather not be banned.

Banned? Why would you be banned.

 

[Tombs]

Banned? Why would you be banned.

The alternative to ballots is bullets, take a guess.

 

[jamil]

It's pure apathy.

If you think elections are pointless, then why are we even discussing politics, why are we even considering candidates? All of this matters, dismissing it is absurd.

I have many more things I would say about this, but I'd rather not be banned.

I think you're taking what Kut said as more than it was intended. I'm familiar with the quote. I agree with it. We really don't have much choice in our elections. It's rigged that way on purpose. The two parties are dominant for a reason. Quoting that isn't apathy. Probably a little frustration, but not apathy.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The alternative to ballots is bullets, take a guess.

Ooooh, and based on today's climate I'd say Twain's quote is correct. There's a reason why people have in recent years have taken notice of the second amendment. It's either what you're inferring, or they are simply paranoid.

 

[OakRiver]

And the POTUS weighs in;
US election 2016: Obama warns against campaign anger - BBC News

He said: "What the folks who are running for office should be focused on is how we can make it even better - not insults and schoolyard taunts and manufacturing facts, not divisiveness along the lines of race and faith."

So Trump has been doing it wrong - you wait until you get into office, then you can;
- be dishonest about gun control stats
- call people who disagree with you bitter clingers
- call your political opponents "terrorists"
- tell the people you need to work with for the next four years "I won" deal with it

 

[jamil]

And the POTUS weighs in;
US election 2016: Obama warns against campaign anger - BBC News

He said: "What the folks who are running for office should be focused on is how we can make it even better - not insults and schoolyard taunts and manufacturing facts, not divisiveness along the lines of race and faith."

So Trump has been doing it wrong - you wait until you get into office, then you can;
- be dishonest about gun control stats
- call people who disagree with you bitter clingers
- call your political opponents "terrorists"
- tell the people you need to work with for the next four years "I won" deal with it

The great uniter.

 

[Leadeye]

The great uniter.

Future objective historians won't be kind to him, he's about out of time for a legacy.

 

[voidsherpa]

Future objective historians won't be kind to him, he's about out of time for a legacy.

What are you talking about? He was the first black president.

 

[Tombs]

What are you talking about? He was the first black president.

Technically, Clinton was the first black president, and don't you forget it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Technically, Clinton was the first black president, and don't you forget it.

"Technically" there has never been one.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Future objective historians won't be kind to him, he's about out of time for a legacy.

Unless your stargate wormhole intersected with a solar flare, how would you know how future historians will say about him?

Kut (wonders)

 

[miguel]

"Technically" there has never been one.

I agree with this!

Dude is bi-racial. Saying he is "black" because he had one black parent is -- and I offer this respectfully, as an opinion -- kind of racist. It is like the olde tyme "one drop rule" where having any black ancestor often made someone have to assume a lesser status in society. (Mixed Race America - Who Is Black? One Nation's Definition | Jefferson's Blood | FRONTLINE | PBS) Of course, he can call himself whatever he wants, it's a free country.

Frankly, until we have a real black guy President who lived on the mainland USA his whole life, I think Obama's a poser!

 

[Tombs]

"Technically" there has never been one.

Well, he's just as black as obama.

 

[Leadeye]

Unless your stargate wormhole intersected with a solar flare, how would you know how future historians will say about him?

Kut (wonders)

Easy, compare what historians say today about presidents in the past.

I bought heavy into NFA in the early 80s, so I'm right about a few things.