The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[JettaKnight]

The more and more I read the posts from the Trumpers here on INGO telling me I have to vote for Trump, the more I want to vote for Hillary just to shove it in their faces. I'm sick of the Trump Establishment pushing this worthless candidate on me. I'm not going to vote for him just because the GOPt tells me I have to do it. Maybe in 2018 after two years of Hillary they will figure it out. (I doubt it)

All this Trump stuff being force fed should tell you all you need to know about what the GOPt thinks about you and your opinions.

 

[T.Lex]

The more and more I read the posts from the Trumpers here on INGO telling me I have to vote for Trump, the more I want to vote for Hillary just to shove it in their faces. I'm sick of the Trump Establishment pushing this worthless candidate on me. I'm not going to vote for him just because the GOPt tells me I have to do it. Maybe in 2018 after two years of Hillary they will figure it out. (I doubt it)

All this Trump stuff being force fed should tell you all you need to know about what the GOPt thinks about you and your opinions.

Well, if you do decide to vote for HRC, if you get calls from pollsters, please indicate that to them. The rest of us need to keep track on how close the race is.

Really, in Indiana, a vote for HRC is a protest vote against Trump (or a die-hard Dem, but not progressive Dem). If you're going to register a protest vote, I'd suggest either a 3rd party or simply no vote. The numbers will show dissatisfaction with the top of the ticket simply by not voting in the race.

 

[nate77]

The more and more I read the posts from the Trumpers here on INGO telling me I have to vote for Trump, the more I want to vote for Hillary just to shove it in their faces.

No worries, the thousands of displaced Carrier workers, along with their friends and family will more than cover your Hillary vote.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

The more and more I read the posts from the Trumpers here on INGO telling me I have to vote for Trump, the more I want to vote for Hillary just to shove it in their faces. I'm sick of the Trump Establishment pushing this worthless candidate on me. I'm not going to vote for him just because the GOPt tells me I have to do it. Maybe in 2018 after two years of Hillary they will figure it out. (I doubt it)

All this Trump stuff being force fed should tell you all you need to know about what the GOPt thinks about you and your opinions.

No worries, the thousands of displaced Carrier workers, along with their friends and family will more than cover your Hillary vote.

We've moved past scare tactic voting and onto guilt tactic.

Do you feel bad, Jetta? Do you feel responsible for Carrier jobs that would have moved even with a President Trump?

You should feel bad, JettaKnight. Now do as Nate77 says and vote for Daddy.

 

[nate77]

We've moved past scare tactic voting and onto guilt tactic.

Do you feel bad, Jetta? Do you feel responsible for Carrier jobs that would have moved even with a President Trump?

You should feel bad, JettaKnight. Now do as Nate77 says and vote for Daddy.

Not scare or guilt tactics, it is winning tactics.

Have polls showed any issue bigger than jobs, and the economy over the last 30 years?

 

[JettaKnight]

It wasn't more than a month ago that these Trumpers would get their knickers twisted about the implication of being told who to vote for. Now that the GOPt has usurped the GOPe, the demands are coming in hot and heavy - scare tactics included.

ANd don't f***ing tell me it's my fault if Hillary wins - those wheels were set in motion by you all.

 

[nate77]

In the interest of transparency, I've had a job go to Mexico, Thomson Consumer Electronics/RCA, and my mother will be experiencing it soon with Carrier.

Trump speaks to people, that have lost their jobs to open trade, and globalism and there are plenty of receptive people.

 

[Expat]

I do find it interesting how much backbone Ryan seems to have with a Trump when he never displayed any in dealing with Obama. Trump has to move to him but Ryan would roll over and give Obama anything and everything he wanted.

 

[T.Lex]

Trump speaks to people, that have lost their jobs to open trade, and globalism and there are plenty of receptive people.

Ironic, given where his self-marketed products were made.

Bigger-picture question. What should government do about it? Seriously, what do we want a Republican POTUS to have the authority to do? Some sort of claw-back on tax breaks? I could get behind that, if it was consistent with the original deal. That's a private market kind of remedy.

But what else? Force a company to keep a factory open? Force the company to pay their executives less?

 

[Dead Duck]

Well, I guess it's settled then.
Anyone have deals on a 24in auger and some burial tubes to last 4 to 8 years?



You guys realize that this is supposed to be a gun forum? As in our rights that NEED to be protected? At any cost...

 

[JettaKnight]

Why can't the government just take over these companies and fun them as a safe space where no one loses there jobs because of that nasty free market capitalist system?



And you're right Nate, the economy is the most important issue. That is an excellent explanation for why self-described evangelical Christian gun owners would vote for Trump.

 

[JettaKnight]

Well, I guess it's settled then.
Anyone have deals on a 24in auger and some burial tubes to last 4 to 8 years?



You guys realize that this is supposed to be a gun forum? As in our rights that NEED to be protected? At any cost...

What's your point?

We already screwed up and told all the pro-2A guys (and girl), "thanks, but no thanks". Now we're stuck with either an openly anti-2A woman that we can oppose or a closeted anti-2A man in our own midst.

 

[Expat]

What's your point?

We already screwed up and told all the pro-2A guys (and girl), "thanks, but no thanks". Now we're stuck with either an openly anti-2A woman that we can oppose or a closeted anti-2A man in our own midst.

It is pretty clear that we don't want any candidate that thinks that silly Constitution is of any importance.

 

[Dead Duck]

At this point -
Who is on the ticket that has the best chance of beating Hillary?

I have asked this repeatedly without an answer other than-
-Sit on my hands....
-Just vote for Hillary cause it's the same thing...
-Vote third party because pride...
-Write in other choice just cause...

Somebody give me a choice that will help our situation in this time line please.

 

[MisterChester]

Why can't the government just take over these companies and fun them as a safe space where no one loses there jobs because of that nasty free market capitalist system?



And you're right Nate, the economy is the most important issue. That is an excellent explanation for why self-described evangelical Christian gun owners would vote for Trump.

The government shouldn't take over them. Just hit them with the tax. Although do we really want companies here that don't want to pay people what they are worth and would rather hire people in countries that barely have any rights to speak of? By that nature they are complicit with unethical labor practices and it shows their true colors.

 

[BugI02]

The more and more I read the posts from the Trumpers here on INGO telling me I have to vote for Trump, the more I want to vote for Hillary just to shove it in their faces. I'm sick of the Trump Establishment pushing this worthless candidate on me. I'm not going to vote for him just because the GOPt tells me I have to do it. Maybe in 2018 after two years of Hillary they will figure it out. (I doubt it)

All this Trump stuff being force fed should tell you all you need to know about what the GOPt thinks about you and your opinions.

After all of the 'Trump is a moron'/'Trump can't win'/'Trump gives me the vapors' yada,yada yada forcefed to us with a firehouse, you will have it and like it until a one to one correspondence is attained.

If you want to complain about first causes the guy yer looking for is GPIATM

 

[BugI02]

Ironic, given where his self-marketed products were made.

I find it ironic that some herein so strongly discourage this type of argument - so necessary to prove hypocrisy - when it was/is applied to their favored ones

Bigger-picture question. What should government do about it? Seriously, what do we want a Republican POTUS to have the authority to do? Some sort of claw-back on tax breaks? I could get behind that, if it was consistent with the original deal. That's a private market kind of remedy.

Tear up TPP, abrogate NAFTA, revoke MFN for China and exit the WTO then targeted tariffs designed to 'level the playing field'. Your next iPad/iphone will likely cost somewhat more

But what else? Force a company to keep a factory open? Force the company to pay their executives less?

see above. We're already in a trade war, we're just the only ones not fighting

 

[T.Lex]

see above. We're already in a trade war, we're just the only ones not fighting

International trade is war by other means, of course.

But, just like there are pyrrhic victories in war, there can be in trade, too. Because we value commercialism over nationalism, we are not disciplined enough as a nation to win them very well.

 

[nate77]

Why can't the government just take over these companies and fun them as a safe space where no one loses there jobs because of that nasty free market capitalist system?

This market is light years away from free. Environmental regulations, health and safety regulations, minimum wages, corporate income taxes, and unions to name a few.

With all of that, how can we compete with china? We can't, but we can take some baby steps toward evening the imbalance, like rewarding products made in the USA, and punishing products that aren't; the government has the power to tax, and they aren't shy about using it to modify our behavior in a plethora of other areas, why not here?

You can't deny that Trump is a negotiator, and leveraging our huge market, and innovation, maybe we can get some more favorable trade deals, to offset our huge disadvantages, or we can continue on the path that the Bush's, and Clinton's have set us on, a totally service based economy, where we don't produce anything, and everybody is taking government handouts.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Donald Trump is Not Expanding the GOP - POLITICO Magazine

Donald Trump likes to say he has created a political movement that has drawn “millions and millions” of new voters into the Republican Party. “It’s the biggest thing happening in politics,” Trump has said. “All over the world, they’re talking about it,” he's bragged. But a Politico analysis of the early 2016 voting data show that, so far, it’s just not true.

While Trump’s insurgent candidacy has spurred record-setting Republican primary turnout in state after state, the early statistics show that the vast majority of those voters aren’t actually new to voting or to the Republican Party, but rather they are reliable past voters in general elections. They are only casting ballots in a Republican primary for the first time.