The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[ArcadiaGP]

Yes, he would. It's not too late!

Joe Biden: I would've dominated over these B-squad candidates

We could have had it all, America...

 

[Route 45]

Yes, he would. It's not too late!

Joe Biden: I would've dominated over these B-squad candidates

We could have had it all, America...

It's not too late, indeed. I've always suspected that Hillary will get indicted, and Biden will ride in on a white horse to rescue the Democrat party. They must see what a weak, flawed candidate she is. She's been beaten 20 times by a no-name, 74 year old socialist from Vermont. Sad!

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Ooo now here's a big flip that'll affect a number of INGO members that backed it

Banning Muslims? That was only a suggestion.

Flip-Flops Galore: Trump Now Saying Banning Muslims Was "Just a suggestion" | RedState

I'm guessing the people that loved this idea early on won't hear this side of it. Just like that wall that'll never be built.

Part of the salesperson saying things to hook you in, then never delivering on them.

 

[T.Lex]

Big week for Trump clarifications.

Maybe no tax on the rich.

Not actually acting presidential.

Probably no interest in party unity (unless it is united behind him). Ok, maybe this isn't really a flip flop.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

And here's CNN, for those that don't like RedState

Trump: Muslim ban 'just a suggestion' - CNNPolitics.com

What'll it take to trigger the "buyers remorse"?

 

[T.Lex]

Dude, didn't you hear? Trump's been running a "word of mouth" campaign all along.

He said he had a “mandate” from his supporters to run as a fiery populist outsider and to rely on his raucous rallies to build support through “word of mouth"...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/12/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.html?_r=0

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

And here's CNN, for those that don't like RedState

Trump: Muslim ban 'just a suggestion' - CNNPolitics.com

What'll it take to trigger the "buyers remorse"?

Like nailing jell-o to a tree.

 

[chipbennett]

Ooo now here's a big flip that'll affect a number of INGO members that backed it

Banning Muslims? That was only a suggestion.

Flip-Flops Galore: Trump Now Saying Banning Muslims Was "Just a suggestion" | RedState

I'm guessing the people that loved this idea early on won't hear this side of it. Just like that wall that'll never be built.

Part of the salesperson saying things to hook you in, then never delivering on them.

Were there a lot of INGOtarians agreeing with/supporting that proposal, as-stated?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Were there a lot of INGOtarians agreeing with/supporting that proposal, as-stated?

I did find a couple early in this thread from back around December, but I don't want to call them out on it. Some here have stated support for the "Muslim ban" expressed by Trump. I don't remember what your thoughts on it were, so I'm guessing his flip on the subject won't influence what you think of him?

I think it was one of his bigger "policies" that he was running on early. Turning away from it now, if it gets enough traction in the media, might not make him look that great (however, we have seen him do a flip of a flop... so he might be for a 100% muslim ban in a couple hours).

 

[Jludo]

I did find a couple early in this thread from back around December, but I don't want to call them out on it. Some here have stated support for the "Muslim ban" expressed by Trump. I don't remember what your thoughts on it were, so I'm guessing his flip on the subject won't influence what you think of him?

I think it was one of his bigger "policies" that he was running on early. Turning away from it now, if it gets enough traction in the media, might not make him look that great (however, we have seen him do a flip of a flop... so he might be for a 100% muslim ban in a couple hours).

That and the 'We have to go after their families bit' got more support than I'd expect.

 

[chipbennett]

I did find a couple early in this thread from back around December, but I don't want to call them out on it. Some here have stated support for the "Muslim ban" expressed by Trump. I don't remember what your thoughts on it were, so I'm guessing his flip on the subject won't influence what you think of him?

I think it was one of his bigger "policies" that he was running on early. Turning away from it now, if it gets enough traction in the media, might not make him look that great (however, we have seen him do a flip of a flop... so he might be for a 100% muslim ban in a couple hours).

My opinion on it at the time was that I understood where he was coming from, but that it was the wrong approach to the solution, and not implementable from a practical perspective. I agreed with "we have a right to decide whom we allow to immigrate" in principle, and "we should halt immigration from X countries, until we have a better grasp on what's going on" in principle, but did not agree with the "we should ban immigration of Muslims" as a means of implementing that principle.

So, I look at it as a *good* thing that Trump is revising that position. Is it a flip-flop? Maybe. I tend to think it more a symptom of Trump being a neophyte politician still trying to get his "sea legs", so to speak. (And yes: being a "neophyte politician" is very much a risk inherent in electing Trump. I've always maintained that.)

 

[T.Lex]

For the record, I think a Clinton win over Trump is not a done deal.

It will be Trump's Cult of Personality against Clinton's Cult of Familiarity, and I'm not sure how that plays out.

 

[Tombs]

[video=youtube;I5e8b696x0w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5e8b696x0w[/video]

And the ice in hell grows a foot thicker.

 

[T.Lex]

And the ice in hell grows a foot thicker.

To borrow a different analogy, I'm wondering if Muhammed is coming to the mountain, or if the mountain is moving toward Muhammed.

Trump is kinda stuck, right? He can't be perceived as getting in bed with the GOPe, but he also runs a serious risk of alienating traditional Republicans who just don't like him or his positions. Can he win without us? Maybe. But it would be much easier to win with us.

 

[Tombs]

To borrow a different analogy, I'm wondering if Muhammed is coming to the mountain, or if the mountain is moving toward Muhammed.

Trump is kinda stuck, right? He can't be perceived as getting in bed with the GOPe, but he also runs a serious risk of alienating traditional Republicans who just don't like him or his positions. Can he win without us? Maybe. But it would be much easier to win with us.

I think there's going to be a move towards common interests on both sides with Trump.

He's a pragmatist, not be an obsessive ideologue.

 

[Dead Duck]

I think there's going to be a move towards common interests on both sides with Trump.

You mean Paul Ryan is going to sleep with Trumps wife too?

 

[T.Lex]

He's a pragmatist, not an obsessive ideologue.

Look - common ground.

 

[Alpo]

I wonder if sex was involved.

 

[T.Lex]

I wonder if sex was involved.

I'm sure Tombs is an attractive man, but we haven't officially been on a first date even.

 

[printcraft]

I wonder if sex was involved.

I too long for the days of the Bill Clinton presidency where the question didn't even need to be asked.