The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[chipbennett]

Well, you know that will be extremely difficult to believe. No one is going to admit that they removed a bunch of black kids because they were black, and probably assumed to start a disturbance in the stands.
Ok, Trump's campaign was on a plane (at least part of it). It's not 1980. People can get information, real time, wherever they are. It is unlikely that Trump, himself, made the call, but it is not impossible that he did know and had the opportunity to make the call.

As for the students shouting profanities.... is that all 30? 15? 5? Do you expel an entire group simply because of an unruly person you happen to be sitting next to? And how does one remove a group of 30 people "shouting profanities" in such a way "that few people in the large crowd noticed anything at all," as stated by the Sheriff? Does that make sense? A group of disruptive students are removed in such a way that hardly anyone noticed? Don't disruptive people get LOUDER when they are removed? Someone is trying, poorly, to sell us a bill of goods.

As for it being a "private" event, I'd like to challenge that. First you're assuming these kids weren't Trump supporters. Some may not have been, some may, and some undecided. They obtained tickets just like anyone else. The problem I have, is that the venue used was a VSU facility, and the people expelled VSU students. I'm not completely sure it's legal to expel all these students of this public university without just cause.
Personally, I think there's a lot of spin going on by Trump's campaign. Were these students warned about their language? Was their language directed towards someone? And where are the corroborating stories by other attendees (well, at least the ones that did notice)?
My personal opinion, is that a group of black kids who were dressed similarly were noticed, and asked to leave because it was assumed they'd create a disturbance once the rally began. That's the simplest, most reasonable conclusion. But, of course, nobody can actually admit that.

It was a private event. The venue was rented out to the Trump campaign. That happens at venues at public and private universities, daily. Schools rent out their facilities, and while under rental contract, the venue is private.

Just because they bought (probably acquired - was it a paid event? Aren't these rallies normally free?) tickets doesn't mean that they aren't there at the pleasure of the entity renting out the venue. And by their own admission, they were there, en masse, dressed uniformly in all black, as a silent protest. So, if some of them were shouting profanities, it is entirely understandable and reasonable to remove all of them.

There is no controversy here.

 

[BugI02]

Well, you know that will be extremely difficult to believe. No one is going to admit that they removed a bunch of black kids because they were black, and probably assumed to start a disturbance in the stands.
Ok, Trump's campaign was on a plane (at least part of it). It's not 1980. People can get information, real time, wherever they are. It is unlikely that Trump, himself, made the call, but it is not impossible that he did know and had the opportunity to make the call.

Yesss. The carefully controlled and always on message nature of the Trump machine argues that the candidate is consulted on every detail at all times. Must be a busy skyphone on Trump1

As for the students shouting profanities.... is that all 30? 15? 5? Do you expel an entire group simply because of an unruly person you happen to be sitting next to? And how does one remove a group of 30 people "shouting profanities" in such a way "that few people in the large crowd noticed anything at all," as stated by the Sheriff? Does that make sense? A group of disruptive students are removed in such a way that hardly anyone noticed? Don't disruptive people get LOUDER when they are removed? Someone is trying, poorly, to sell us a bill of goods.

What did the presidential candidate know, and when did he know it? Really?

As for it being a "private" event, I'd like to challenge that. First you're assuming these kids weren't Trump supporters. Some may not have been, some may, and some undecided. They obtained tickets just like anyone else. The problem I have, is that the venue used was a VSU facility, and the people expelled VSU students. I'm not completely sure it's legal to expel all these students of this public university without just cause.
Personally, I think there's a lot of spin going on by Trump's campaign. Were these students warned about their language? Was their language directed towards someone? And where are the corroborating stories by other attendees (well, at least the ones that did notice)?
My personal opinion, is that a group of black kids who were dressed similarly were noticed, and asked to leave because it was assumed they'd create a disturbance once the rally began. That's the simplest, most reasonable conclusion. But, of course, nobody can actually admit that.

The sources I've read acknowledge the Trump campaign rented the venue and had the right to control access. If the students merely wanted to experience a Trump campaign why not just get dressed, why the dressed alike thing; and if it was PETA people escorted out would you (hopefully) feel the same way.

Bug(has faith that kut would)

 

[Route 45]

My personal opinion, is that a group of black kids who were dressed similarly were noticed, and asked to leave because it was assumed they'd create a disturbance once the rally began. That's the simplest, most reasonable conclusion. But, of course, nobody can actually admit that.

I didn't realize that you were there. My apologies. I always like to hear first hand accounts from people who witness events like this. If it wasn't for your first hand account, I'd just assume that your opinion was based on your preconceived notions and biases, since there is conflicting information in the news stories. I'm certainly glad that you are not one of those types that see a racist behind every tree.

I have seen the light. Somebody call Al Sharpton.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I didn't realize that you were there. My apologies. I always like to hear first hand accounts from people who witness events like this. If it wasn't for your first hand account, I'd just assume that your opinion was based on your preconceived notions and biases, since there is conflicting information in the news stories. I'm certainly glad that you are not one of those types that see a racist behind every tree.

I have seen the light. Somebody call Al Sharpton.

100% preconceived notion, based on how other people have acted at Trump's rallies, and how they've been handled. That's what youre talking about right?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Fox is calling Ma, Tn, and Al for Trump.

 

[Route 45]

100% preconceived notion, based on how other people have acted at Trump's rallies, and how they've been handled.

Good thing people don't get any preconceived notions about certain groups of people by watching the news every night.
Maybe preconceived notions aren't such a good thing.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Good thing people don't get any preconceived notions about certain groups of people by watching the news every night.
Maybe preconceived notions aren't such a good thing.

Perhaps that went over your head. Trump, Donald Trump, has had on several occasions people protest during his rallies. When they have interrupted, they have been removed. It has become a fairly frequent thing. The notion expressed, is that perhaps, those within his campaign would like to avoid repeats, and have actively attempted to identify and remove possible problems prior to the rallies.

My preconceived notion, is based on a single specific person, and prior experiences that particular person has dealt with and responded. Disregarding the fact that you dimed yourself out as being able to carry a notion to the point of sweeping generalization, based on what you see on the news (you wouldn't have said it, otherwise), there is quite a difference when one makes a comment on a specific person, than generalize the group that person may belong.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

funny what happens in a closed primary

Florida is also a closed primary state, and it's way too late to change registration to participate. Rubio will win Florida.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

funny what happens in a closed primary

Florida is also a closed primary state, and it's way too late to change registration to participate. Rubio will win Florida.

Trump's up by 5% over Cruz in Oklahoma with about 6% reporting.

 

[asevans]

Build the wall

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Build the wall

As long as you promise that we can arbitrarily increase it's height based on factors, up to and including, the current demeanor of the Mexicans, the amount of criticism from the GOP, and Univision's ratings?

 

[Route 45]

Perhaps that went over your head. Trump, Donald Trump, has had on several occasions people protest during his rallies. When they have interrupted, they have been removed. It has become a fairly frequent thing. The notion expressed, is that perhaps, those within his campaign would like to avoid repeats, and have actively attempted to identify and remove possible problems prior to the rallies.

My preconceived notion, is based on a single specific person, and prior experiences that particular person has dealt with and responded. Disregarding the fact that you dimed yourself out as being able to carry a notion to the point of sweeping generalization, based on what you see on the news (you wouldn't have said it, otherwise), there is quite a difference when one makes a comment on a specific person, than generalize the group that person may belong.

A preconceived notion IS a sweeping generalization. It's the same attitude towards things, whether you use your bias against one person or a group.
Dimed myself out? If that's what you call having the intelletual capacity to see how things work in the real world, well, call it what you will.
Bias is bias. And if you weren't there.....well, you know what they say about opinions.

 

[Tombs]

funny what happens in a closed primary

Florida is also a closed primary state, and it's way too late to change registration to participate. Rubio will win Florida.

You're funny.

 

[Route 45]

funny what happens in a closed primary

Florida is also a closed primary state, and it's way too late to change registration to participate. Rubio will win Florida.

0% reporting.

Put your lube away, sparky. It ain't time yet.

 

[Kutnupe14]

A preconceived notion IS a sweeping generalization. It's the same attitude towards things, whether you use your bias against one person or a group.
Dimed myself out? If that's what you call having the intelletual capacity to see how things work in the real world, well, call it what you will.
Bias is bias. And if you weren't there.....well, you know what they say about opinions.

Ok, after the I said "preconceived notion," I placed a comma... meaning there was a clarification. That clarification being a "single specific person." I then contrasted that to your "sweeping generalization," placing another comma and clarifying "what you see on the news," which was something about a "certain group" of people.
As much as I'd like to go over the finer points of reading comprehension, or how basing an opinion on the acts of an individual, to form a notion, is the preferred method over generalizing a group based on new programs, I think if you haven't figured that out now, you probably won't.

Don't be mad bro, language isn't everyone's forte.

 

[Route 45]

Ok, after the I said "preconceived notion," I placed a comma... meaning there was a clarification. That clarification being a "single specific person." I then contrasted that to your "sweeping generalization," placing another comma and clarifying "what you see on the news," which was something about a "certain group" of people.
As much as I'd like to go over the finer points of reading comprehension, or how basing an opinion on the acts of an individual, to form a notion, is the preferred method over generalizing a group based on new programs, I think if you haven't figured that out now, you probably won't.

Don't be mad bro, language isn't everyone's forte.

I've seen the content of other posts that you have made, enough to know exactly where you are coming from. No matter where you put the commas.
And I'm not your bro. I don't keep company with revenue agents.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I've seen the content of other posts that you have made, enough to know exactly where you are coming from. No matter where you put the commas.
And I'm not your bro. I don't keep company with revenue agents.

So is that a preconceived notion or generalization? Lol. Funny, your brand of hypocrisy.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Cruz just took Texas

 

[Twangbanger]

Trump just took Virginia.

 

[chipbennett]

Cruz just took Texas

A candidate taking his home state should be assumed, not breaking news.