The President Trump Immigration Thread

[SwikLS]

McConnell says from the floor trump will sign bill and issue national emergency declaration.

This should put the SCOTUS decision at the fall session this year with lots pictures of wall construction and finished wall (or barrier, whatever) for the 2020 election season.

 

[T.Lex]

McConnell says from the floor trump will sign bill and issue national emergency declaration.

 

[indyblue]

So, he's gonna sight this piece of s**t bill with all the poison pills in it that expand catch-and-release and defacto amnesty.

If the GOP doesn't file lawsuits against all future democrat actions the way they have been, It'll be hard to find someone to vote for in the next election.

 

[T.Lex]

So, he's gonna sight this piece of s**t bill with all the poison pills in it that expand catch-and-release and defacto amnesty.

If the GOP doesn't file lawsuits against all future democrat actions the way they have been, It'll be hard to find someone to vote for in the next election.

While there are other parts of your post that are interesting, can you elaborate on the de facto amnesty?

I haven't heard that about this bill.

 

[HoughMade]

McConnell says from the floor trump will sign bill and issue national emergency declaration.

Boooo x2

Yeah....an emergency declaration in this circumstance is awfully dictatory

 

[T.Lex]

... dictatory

Looks like the word censor ***tionary will need to be updated....

 

[HoughMade]

Looks like the word censor ***tionary will need to be updated....

I sometimes make up words so that people remember the point....trial technique.

...but only when the meaning of the word is so obvious even a juror would understand.

 

[indyblue]

While there are other parts of your post that are interesting, can you elaborate on the de facto amnesty?

I haven't heard that about this bill.

My bad, I guess I used the wrong word. More like pseudo-amnesty and handouts.

The bill includes many large programs to help illegal migrants, as well as people who walk up to the border to ask for asylum so they may get work permits. The language also includes backdoor curbs on enforcement agencies.

For example, the legislation reopens the joint cartel-to-agency smuggling route for so-called “Unaccompanied Alien Children.” Former President Barack Obama opened this route when his deputies agreed to let illegal migrant parents in the United States “sponsor” — pick up — their foreign children from government shelters after the cartels deliver the children to the border agency. President Donald Trump’s deputies have been shutting down this route by arresting illegals who try to “sponsor” their children from the government shelters:

Here's a gem from the spending bill. Section 224 (a) says that ICE may not remove any sponsor or *potential sponsor* or *member of a household* of a UAC. That's de facto sanctuary for anyone near a UAC. Ridiculous. 30-40% of MS-13 arrests have been UACs.
— Jessica Vaughan (@JessicaV_CIS) February 14, 2019


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The language also offers a legal shield to illegals who agree to pay cartel-affiliated smugglers to move additional children into the United States. The shield is created by the language barring officials from deporting people who are “a sponsor, a potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor”:
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the budget also provides $30 million to hire pro-migration groups that will guide migrants towards winning asylum
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and on and on

It's quite sickening OUR congress is more interested in helping illegal aliens than American citizens. There are plenty of homeless folks, vets, and welfare families that could use help right here and now.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

There's a tweet for everything.

Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/535441553079431168

 

[T.Lex]

Ok, thanks. I wasn't aware of those provisions, and they kinda seem far-fetched, but thanks for the info.

I'm still waiting on someone to come up with an answer for the millions of otherwise-law-abiding undocumented people here now. Many of whom pay taxes and generally contribute to society in a positive way. Seems like we can come up with a solution for them. Pathway to citizenship or something.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Ok, thanks. I wasn't aware of those provisions, and they kinda seem far-fetched, but thanks for the info.

I'm still waiting on someone to come up with an answer for the millions of otherwise-law-abiding undocumented people here now. Many of whom pay taxes and generally contribute to society in a positive way. Seems like we can come up with a solution for them. Pathway to citizenship or something.

I'm onboard with DACA kids. Those that were brought here as minors, and have avoided any trouble with the law. The rest, I'm sorry, but they have to go
-OR-
If, of those non-DACA persons, they have been law-abiding too (aside from illegal entry), then I would be open to allowing them back, with the caveat that while they are protected fully under the law, and would be American citizens, they would be barred from receiving federal benefits, other than what they directly paid in, and voting in any federal election.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Oh ****... it's been talked about before, but Pelosi just said something to the effect of, "You want to talk about a national emergency? Let's talk about today, the 1 year anniversary of one of the worst school shootings. Gun violence is a national emergency."

 

[mmpsteve]

I'm onboard with DACA kids. Those that were brought here as minors, and have avoided any trouble with the law. The rest, I'm sorry, but they have to go
-OR-
If, of those non-DACA persons, they have been law-abiding too (aside from illegal entry), then I would be open to allowing them back, with the caveat that while they are protected fully under the law, and would be American citizens, they would be barred from receiving federal benefits, other than what they directly paid in, and voting in any federal election.

Not an argument; more an observation. Kinda sounds like a 2 tier system reminiscent of the year 1870, or therabouts.

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[T.Lex]

I'm onboard with DACA kids. Those that were brought here as minors, and have avoided any trouble with the law. The rest, I'm sorry, but they have to go
-OR-
If, of those non-DACA persons, they have been law-abiding too (aside from illegal entry), then I would be open to allowing them back, with the caveat that while they are protected fully under the law, and would be American citizens, they would be barred from receiving federal benefits, other than what they directly paid in, and voting in any federal election.

I think there can be a healthy discussion about what steps should be on the pathway.

(I'm not thrilled with the concept of someone becoming an American citizen, but then limit their rights... but there's no reason why that can't be part of the conversation. I think the general idea of "citizen" meaning "full rights" is easier and better. Now, if there's a probationary period or something in which they can't do those things, that's fine. But, once they are a citizen, then it should be a done deal.)

 

[DRob]

Bill Clinton, 1995 State of The Union

https://www.facebook.com/dave.reiser.9/videos/10213329614251019/?t=1

 

[Kutnupe14]

I think there can be a healthy discussion about what steps should be on the pathway.

(I'm not thrilled with the concept of someone becoming an American citizen, but then limit their rights... but there's no reason why that can't be part of the conversation. I think the general idea of "citizen" meaning "full rights" is easier and better. Now, if there's a probationary period or something in which they can't do those things, that's fine. But, once they are a citizen, then it should be a done deal.)

We do it to felons. Illegals broke the law why can we not apply that to them also. The way I see it, it's a either/or choice. Either you accept the terms, or you go back to where you came from. The can completely opt out of it. No one is forcing them to do anything.

 

[Dead Duck]

No DACA, No Amnesty, No Anchor Babies, No Compromise. **** the left.
Build the Wall, Slam the door ASAP and keep it closed until we have a grip on an actual working immigration policy.

This is what it should be. Something close would be nice. I would like to see it in my lifetime.

 

[Platycqb]

No DACA, No Amnesty, No Anchor Babies, No Compromise. **** the left.
Build the Wall, Slam the door ASAP and keep it closed until we have a grip on an actual working immigration policy.

This is what it should be. Something close would be nice. I would like to see it in my lifetime.

Hope you’re still young then...

 

[K_W]

Oh ****... it's been talked about before, but Pelosi just said something to the effect of, "You want to talk about a national emergency? Let's talk about today, the 1 year anniversary of one of the worst school shootings. Gun violence is a national emergency."

there shouldn't be anything that they can do with that because 2A is a constitutional right versus a duty of the government.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Trump to issue executive order to fund border wall with $8 billion