The Open Carry Argument

[cbhausen]

I can't recall ever having a single problem OCing (with LEO or anyone else for that matter). That having been said, I dress how I feel each day and if it ends up covered or not, so be it.

Just carry on however you like! This is Indiana, after all.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I recommend everyone come to Evansville and OC, the police down here are very OC friendly

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I recommend everyone come to Evansville and OC, the police down here are very OC friendly

 

[sipherblitz]

like a lot of things, just cuz you can, doesn't always mean you should. Open carry tends to draw a lot of attention, not all of it positive.

 

[Dead Duck]

Read The OP.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

like a lot of things, just cuz you can, doesn't always mean you should. Open carry tends to draw a lot of attention, not all of it positive.

I never thought of that. CC for me from now on.

 

[ATM]

like a lot of things, just cuz you can, doesn't always mean you should.

Are you talking about concealing, or something else?

Open carry tends to draw a lot of attention, not all of it positive.

Did you read that somewhere or have you experienced it? What sort of attention did you draw?

I don't draw much "attention" when carrying openly, but the rare gun related interactions are generally quite positive.

 

[MisterChester]

I don't draw much "attention" when carrying openly, but the rare gun related interactions are generally quite positive.

I don't think many people would approach you if it was negative. Where I work some customers may OC and almost always I get a comment from another customer or a coworker that says "you see that guy? He has a gun on his hip." I just say in so many words "and? Your point?"

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I had an interesting interaction at Wally World this morning. I was buying ammo and a guy at the counter was waiting on me to finish up. He was looking for turkey loads and we were helping the clerk to find some #4 shot (none to be found, of course; sent him to Dunham's).

I digress.

He mentioned my sidearm being outside my vest, in the open air, if you will. Wanted to know if I was an officer. Told him "no" and he said a SBPD officer told him he had to conceal. He added he had a LTCH but it had to be concealed. I filled him in on the law and cautioned him that some LEO's don't fully understand the laws. Gave him the duct tape to forehead line. He sounded like he would join us on the dark side.

My takeaway from this interaction, and one that may seem relatively innocuous, was the fact that if I was concealing, he would have just assumed the Heckler's Veto was law. I suggested INGO and handgunlaw.us.

Nothing earth shattering. Just a brief, friendly, 2 minute conversation that may have helped a LTCH holder to look into the laws regarding carrying in Indiana, and then go forth and spread the word.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I had an interesting interaction at Wally World this morning. I was buying ammo and a guy at the counter was waiting on me to finish up. He was looking for turkey loads and we were helping the clerk to find some #4 shot (none to be found, of course; sent him to Dunham's).

I digress.

He mentioned my sidearm being outside my vest, in the open air, if you will. Wanted to know if I was an officer. Told him "no" and he said a SBPD officer told him he had to conceal. He added he had a LTCH but it had to be concealed. I filled him in on the law and cautioned him that some LEO's don't fully understand the laws. Gave him the duct tape to forehead line. He sounded like he would join us on the dark side.

My takeaway from this interaction, and one that may seem relatively innocuous, was the fact that if I was concealing, he would have just assumed the Heckler's Veto was law. I suggested INGO and handgunlaw.us.

Nothing earth shattering. Just a brief, friendly, 2 minute conversation that may have helped a LTCH holder to look into the laws regarding carrying in Indiana, and then go forth and spread the word.

This is why OC rocks for those that can handle communicating with strangers. Education.

 

[Sirindu]

I had an interesting interaction at Wally World this morning. I was buying ammo and a guy at the counter was waiting on me to finish up. He was looking for turkey loads and we were helping the clerk to find some #4 shot (none to be found, of course; sent him to Dunham's).

I digress.

He mentioned my sidearm being outside my vest, in the open air, if you will. Wanted to know if I was an officer. Told him "no" and he said a SBPD officer told him he had to conceal. He added he had a LTCH but it had to be concealed. I filled him in on the law and cautioned him that some LEO's don't fully understand the laws. Gave him the duct tape to forehead line. He sounded like he would join us on the dark side.

My takeaway from this interaction, and one that may seem relatively innocuous, was the fact that if I was concealing, he would have just assumed the Heckler's Veto was law. I suggested INGO and handgunlaw.us.

Nothing earth shattering. Just a brief, friendly, 2 minute conversation that may have helped a LTCH holder to look into the laws regarding carrying in Indiana, and then go forth and spread the word.

Amen. As Bunny said, this is a great reason for OCing. Good job, man!

 

[cbhausen]

I have corrected several folks on the legality of open carry. Once enlightened, these people are generally okay with the practice.

 

[Rob Pincus]

It is funny to me that this thread still goes on.... I don't keep up with it. Has anyone who once thought OC Activism was a good idea actually admitted that it is foolish and a fail for The RKBA Movement? I like to think so.

-RJP

 

[actaeon277]

It is funny to me that this thread still goes on.... I don't keep up with it. Has anyone who once thought OC Activism was a good idea actually admitted that it is foolish and a fail for The RKBA Movement? I like to think so.

-RJP

I OC every day. Not as an activist. I Just Carry.

Nobody runs screaming.
Nobody lectures.
We have NOT lost the right to carry because of my carry choice.

 

[88GT]

Why admit that which isn't true?

 

[Bunnykid68]

CC, a great way to educate those that are afraid of guns because it creates so many useful conversations while doing so.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

Ohhhh noooooo! Why can't we just see the light?

Maybe one could trot on over here and keep up with it...

 

[cbhausen]

I've been OCing since the weather broke this spring and the only negative experience I have had was seeing a young couple pick their toddler up and move him to the other side of their table when I entered Five Guys in Brownsburg (but it was okay if he stood up in his chair, go figure...). No negative comments, only positive conversations and several opportunities to educate the folks.

OC done right is a great conversation starter.

 

[SteveM4A1]

It is funny to me that this thread still goes on.... I don't keep up with it. Has anyone who once thought OC Activism was a good idea actually admitted that it is foolish and a fail for The RKBA Movement? I like to think so.

-RJP

Funny thing Rob, I haven't seen any pieces written by you that are as well thought out about concealed carry (or any of your interviews for that matter). Maybe you should try harder. I would think someone with your years of expertise can come up with something better than I have seen.

 

[ATM]

It is funny to me that this thread still goes on.... I don't keep up with it. Has anyone who once thought OC Activism was a good idea actually admitted that it is foolish and a fail for The RKBA Movement? I like to think so.

-RJP

You never fare well attempting to actually debate on this subject and generally come across as just another smarmy CC-only elitist when you try to disparage people who carry differently than you.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...8253-rob-pincus-appropriate-open-carry-2.html

I seriously doubt you've gotten any better at it in the last year (judging by the foolishness of your post above), but you're welcome to surprise me.

Please do attempt to refute some of the real OC reasoning and defenses rather than creating or belaboring the usual straw man arguments. Thanks.