The OFFICIAL Trump/HRC/2016 General Election Thread...

[T.Lex]

It's been megative media coverage every step of the way. From day one they've been trying to stop him.

"Negative" coverage is coverage.

Besides, in the primaries, the "negative" coverage seemed to result in better poll rankings for him. It fed his popularity.

The more he was portrayed as a bully, the better he did.

Do you think that was a secret?

His nomination is a result of people being fed up with the GOP and their typical candidates who screw us over every single time they win. They don't own him, and he's not one of them. He's not owned by either major party, they can't control him, and he's not going to march in lock-step with all the same established party hacks on either side.

That is why he won the nomination.

Is there some external reason you can point to, other that "IMHO" for that assertion?

The media covered him more than any other candidate. They mocked Jebra and all the others.

You believe a left-wing conspiracy exists. What did it do to stymy a DJT nomination? Everything they published helped him in the polls. If they were going to try to stop his campaign, maybe they would've not done that?

Or are you also asserting it is an incompetent conspiracy?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Hahahahhaa, he just lost the Kardashian vote

"Why don’t we fire Khloe? She is a fat piglet. Why did we get the ugly Kardashian?”

Donald Trump Made Nasty Comments About Khloe Kardashian On 'Apprentice,' Staffers Say | Huffington Post

 

[jbombelli]

That's not how it happened.

Coverage during and before primary was Neutral-to-Positive. They already covered this in leaked e-mails. Giving him hours and hours of neutral coverage, while giving other candidates none. From day one they built him up to make him the nominee. Then after the primary, the negative coverage kicked in to guarantee Clinton's victory.

Maybe that's what you saw. I saw them rolling their eyes and treating him as a joke. Regularly.

 

[jbombelli]

"Negative" coverage is coverage.

Besides, in the primaries, the "negative" coverage seemed to result in better poll rankings for him. It fed his popularity.

The more he was portrayed as a bully, the better he did.

Do you think that was a secret?


Is there some external reason you can point to, other that "IMHO" for that assertion?

The media covered him more than any other candidate. They mocked Jebra and all the others.

You believe a left-wing conspiracy exists. What did it do to stymy a DJT nomination? Everything they published helped him in the polls. If they were going to try to stop his campaign, maybe they would've not done that?

Or are you also asserting it is an incompetent conspiracy?

Everything that helped him was negative press. Because lots of people see the media for what it is: pro-Democrat liars. They tried all the same things that always worked against typical Republican nice guys who finish last. Only this time it had the opposite effect.

And this is IMHO only, based on my feelings and those I know personally who voted for him.

 

[printcraft]

 

[printcraft]

Maybe that's what you saw. I saw them rolling their eyes and treating him as a joke. Regularly.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It was "no chance of being the nominee, clown, etc etc etc." Strangely like many posts in this thread...... weird.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It was "no chance of being the nominee, clown, etc etc etc." Strangely like many posts in this thread...... weird.

And yet they sat on all these damaging stories until... after he was the candidate.

No, the coverage before the primary was not as negative as you want to make it sound. It was simply coverage. Yes, it focused on him not being a politician, and questioned how someone like him could even win... but they knew exactly what they were doing by giving him coverage.

Coverage he didn't deserve to have over the rest of the candidates. Rallies are rallies... but his took priority over anything else.

 

[printcraft]

You don't think they had a stack of made up **** in the wings for Cruz?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

You don't think they had a stack of made up **** in the wings for Cruz?

The fact you call these stories "made up" with regards to Trump shows a bit of bias. Of course they were ready for the off-chance Cruz got in there. I'm sure they did plenty of research on the candidates to have ammo ready. But they knew Trump would be the easiest to beat... as admitted by the DNC in leaked e-mails.

I wouldn't be saying "made up" so freely. The dude bragged about doing something, on tape... and now there are stories of him doing exactly those things. Some may end up being exaggerated... but let's not pretend they aren't true yet.

 

[bwframe]

If the last 8 years and everything Stick said two posts ago didn't open people's eyes that the nation needs to move away from it's socialist direction, nothing will. I believe the train has left the station and there is nothing - nothing - going to stop it. If conservatives can't win this year they never will. Any offering after this year will only be non-conservatives battling for the scraps.

I'm an optimistic person, but there is little to no optimism here. For the next generation or more the SCOTUS, POTUS and congress will move us to socialism.

A LOT of the problem is, unlike the other side, we eat our own. If our candidate cannot meet the purity standard of some among us, they are content to help the enemy win just so they can say "I told you so."

Negative sentiment festers on social media.

 

[T.Lex]

Everything that helped him was negative press.

Then it wasn't very negative, was it?

Because lots of people see the media for what it is: pro-Democrat liars. They tried all the same things that always worked against typical Republican nice guys who finish last. Only this time it had the opposite effect.

When do you think Trump started really polling well?

It was "no chance of being the nominee, clown, etc etc etc." Strangely like many posts in this thread...... weird.

(Technically, this thread started after the conventions, but I know what you mean.)

Indeed, about a year ago, I thought DJT would not get the nomination. However, about then Trump and Carson were consistently polling 1 and 2, with DJT mostly 1st. Cruz was rising to 4th place. But he Paris attacks in November, Trump was the solid leader.

After that, the media pretty much said he was the guy to beat. "Can anyone stop Trump?" was the question of the day. It absolutely was not "no chance of being the nominee."

So, at some point, you can't say he was still the underdog. By the time Iowa held its caucus,

 

[ArcadiaGP]

i don't read german, what does this say, is it good

 

[T.Lex]

Some 2015 links to "negative" coverage.

Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...05a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html

Despite predictions that such searing, divisive rhetoric and the resulting outcry would cripple his campaign, Donald Trump’s insults and controversial proposals have propelled him to the forefront of the 2016 presidential race — and kept him there.
And while it may seem like a lurching, chaotic campaign, Trump is, for the most part, a disciplined and methodical candidate, according to a Washington Post review of the businessman’s speeches, interviews and thousands of tweets and retweets over the past six months.

LA Times:

Donald Trump's campaign: It's less chaotic and more calculated than it looks - LA Times

Trump’s raw, in-your-face style of politics can come off as random ranting. Over the weekend, he called Hillary Clinton a liar and Bush a loser.
“Dumb as a rock!” he wrote on Twitter of the former Florida governor.
But if Trump sows chaos, it is tightly controlled chaos. The bluster and put-downs are part of a meticulously calculated strategy by a surprisingly disciplined front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination. Trump is the rare first-time candidate whose mastery of basic political skills seems unmatched by most, if not all, of his rivals in a crowded Republican field.

The New Yorker:
Donald Trump vs. the Modern Political Campaign - The New Yorker

On Tuesday night, the Republican pollster Frank Luntz held a focus group of twenty-nine Trump supporters from the Washington, D.C., area, which he opened to the media, and found that their allegiance was at least as strong to Trump as it was to the party. Nineteen said that they would back Trump as a third-party candidate if Rubio was the Republican nominee; fourteen said that they would do so if the nominee was Ted Cruz. Viewing footage of Trump’s gaffes and insults only seemed to increase their enthusiasm for him. “I’ve never seen anything like this,” Luntz said. “There’s no sign of them leaving. He has created or found the magic formula.”

 

[printcraft]

i don't read german, what does this say, is it good

It says he's good in bed.

 

[indiucky]

i don't read german, what does this say, is it good

That's weird...Normally the European press hate Republican candidates...Why are the Germans being so complimentary to Trump I wonder???? Strange....

Europeans told us for years us Americans are too uptight about sex and our politicians...We finally saw the light.....No more puritan uptightness from this Yank....Cue Right Said Fred...

[video=youtube;P5mtclwloEQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ[/video]

 

[printcraft]

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[JettaKnight]

[video=youtube;tP-Md-Mit6Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-Md-Mit6Q[/video]

So when Hollywood tells us to vote for Hilary I'm not suppose to listen because they should shut up and make movies, but Jon Voight, I should listen to him?


Got it.

 

[hoosierdoc]

It says he's good in bed.

Is this the same German paper that refused to print ACTUAL sexual assault and rape
by Muslim immigrants? Just checking the merits of the opinions.

have you been to Germany? I think printcraft nailed the translation

 

[JettaKnight]

I think it's high time the White House get some of those Bunga Bunga parties that Italy was so famous for.

 

[indiucky]

So when Hollywood tells us to vote for Hilary I'm not suppose to listen because they should shut up and make movies, but Jon Voight, I should listen to him?

Well to be fair Jetta he did shoot a hillbilly rapist with a recurve bow....

Wait...What's a bunga bunga party????