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    zippy23

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    Democrats are OK with nuclear power for Iran, but not for the U.S. this fact alone prices they are lying about the deal and can't be trusted as usual
     
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    actaeon277 said:
    Neville Chamberlain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Neville would be proud.

    Appeasement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    After all, he promised peace also.
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    Come on Actaeon, that's too easy. Sometimes the magic works. Sometimes it doesn't. Methinks the Ayatollah ain't gonna like this deal much. Hitler was ecstatic about his deal with the Brit. Diplomacy or war. If the deal fails and Iran moves forward (doubtful) then you can make your case. Don't be too eager to go to war. That's where this is heading.
     
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    findingZzero said:
    Come on Actaeon, that's too easy. Sometimes the magic works. Sometimes it doesn't. Methinks the Ayatollah ain't gonna like this deal much. Hitler was ecstatic about his deal with the Brit. Diplomacy or war. If the deal fails and Iran moves forward (doubtful) then you can make your case. Don't be too eager to go to war. That's where this is heading.
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    Iran has been searching for a nuke for decades.
    Why would we have to go to war now?
    Previous methods not working?
     
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    findingZzero said:
    Nuclear war is bad for business. Iran's Ayatollah isn't stupid. Israel is small, but their nuclear arsenal would devastate Iran. My understanding is that the Ayatollah, surrounded by wars (involving the US and ISIS) needs a nuke to feel safe in a world where once you give up your nukes (Libya) all hell breaks loose. Their nuclear power development is also a source of national pride for their country. They need a secular government there. A stonger middle class will demand more freedom. Lifting the sanctions may help speed this along. If I'm wrong, I'll see you in your bunker.
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    Except, they're not in it for 'business'.

    Anyone thinking that it's 'okay' for Iran to have nuclear weapons is crazier than the Iranians working to obtain them. Best current guess is that Iran is 2 months away from having a nuke. Any 'deal' made by the Liar-In-Chief would 'push that back' so Iran would only be a year from a nuke, rather than that 2 months.

    Apparently, there are STILL some yabos out there that STILL don't understand who they're dealing with. :nuts:
     
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    ModernGunner said:
    Except, they're not in it for 'business'.

    Anyone thinking that it's 'okay' for Iran to have nuclear weapons is crazier than the Iranians working to obtain them. Best current guess is that Iran is 2 months away from having a nuke. Any 'deal' made by the Liar-In-Chief would 'push that back' so Iran would only be a year from a nuke, rather than that 2 months.

    Apparently, there are STILL some yabos out there that STILL don't understand who they're dealing with. :nuts:
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    OK let me rephrase this from 'business' to 'business as usual.' They are afraid of regime change.
     
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    Didn't President Clinton make a deal with North Korea to "keep us from going to war with them" and "keep them from getting nukes"?
     
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    No false dichotomies in the least. The detractors in congress who signed their letter of ire hold the same position as the Iranian hardliners.
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    Oh, so the Iranian hardliners don't trust that the Iranians will keep their end of the bargain either? Well, I guess they are exactly on the same side then. :rolleyes:
     
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    actaeon277 said:
    Didn't President Clinton make a deal with North Korea to "keep us from going to war with them" and "keep them from getting nukes"?
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    I believe that deal involved us paying them not to build nukes, probably the same thing with a different spin for this deal. No price to high to preserve a legacy.
     
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    mrjarrell said:
    No false dichotomies in the least. The detractors in congress who signed their letter of ire hold the same position as the Iranian hardliners.
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    The GOP didn't send a letter, they posted it to Cottons website. The press sent it, diagnosed it, translated it, commented on it, and asked the White House what they think about it.

    and I have yet to see any GOP politician (maybe you can find one out in BF America) that endorsed hanging gays, killing Jews, beheading Christians, or nuking Israel.

    doesnt sound like the same position to me
     
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    D-Ric902 said:
    The GOP didn't send a letter, they posted it to Cottons website. The press sent it, diagnosed it, translated it, commented on it, and asked the White House what they think about it.

    and I have yet to see any GOP politician (maybe you can find one out in BF America) that endorsed hanging gays, killing Jews, beheading Christians, or nuking Israel.

    doesnt sound like the same position to me
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    So you understand it beyond the bumper sticker version. Well done.
     
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    I'm honestly waiting for the Fox report (no one else will cover it) of a detonation of an Iranian nuclear test.
    the White House will deny it or talk about the "unconfirmed reports" and are "investigating"
    the right will campaign and rant about the administration, the left will deny and accuse the right of fear mongering and hate.

    typical stuff
     
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