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  • Blackhawk2001

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    As is the whole outrage over the release.
    Perhaps you are missing the significance of the release of the formerly classified data? When its neighbors were aware that "probably" Israel had nuclear weapons, but it wasn't confirmed, they could ignore the "threat" except that they knew the Israelis would use them (if they had them) only if their backs were to the wall (or their necks in an ever-tightening noose). Furthermore, while "everyone knew" that Israel had nukes, they didn't know what types and where. I understand the leaked DoD documents detail that information. While Obama (and perhaps you as well) may think that Israel having nuclear weapons is a destabilizing influence in the region, in actuality it had been a stabilizing influence under the former circumstances. And by the way, did anyone else notice that Saudi Arabia didn't go shopping for nukes when they were pretty sure Israel had them, but they're shopping for them now that Iran seems likely to get them? What does that imply?
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Perhaps you are missing the significance of the release of the formerly classified data? When its neighbors were aware that "probably" Israel had nuclear weapons, but it wasn't confirmed, they could ignore the "threat" except that they knew the Israelis would use them (if they had them) only if their backs were to the wall (or their necks in an ever-tightening noose). Furthermore, while "everyone knew" that Israel had nukes, they didn't know what types and where. I understand the leaked DoD documents detail that information. While Obama (and perhaps you as well) may think that Israel having nuclear weapons is a destabilizing influence in the region, in actuality it had been a stabilizing influence under the former circumstances. And by the way, did anyone else notice that Saudi Arabia didn't go shopping for nukes when they were pretty sure Israel had them, but they're shopping for them now that Iran seems likely to get them? What does that imply?

    Maybe you're not aware, but this information was requested under the FOIA THREE YEARS AGO. The administration had been fighting it's release that entire time.

    Here's your link:
    Legal battle to publish unclassified DOD report on Israeli nukes nears end | WashingtonExaminer.com
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Not everything is, or should be, available under FOIA.

    I agree, but our current admin has been fight the release of this for THREE years. However, everyone is playing it up like, "Obama walk down to the vault, and said 'here take it'"
     

    D-Ric902

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    I agree, but our current admin has been fight the release of this for THREE years. However, everyone is playing it up like, "Obama walk down to the vault, and said 'here take it'"

    oh man, if Obama had only known about this before he heard about it on the news
     

    ModernGunner

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    HIGHLY unlikely the current Administration has been 'fighting against the release of these documents for 3 years'.

    And 'taking 3 years' indicates nothing. Once made a FOIA request on some ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) information. Nothing 'special' or 'secret', just how to comply with ADA rules in making businesses ADA compliant. THAT took almost a year, and there was nothing 'sensitive' whatsoever about that information.

    Considering the disdain and disrespect ('hatred'?) the current Administration has demonstrated against Israel so far, the release of these documents regarding Israel at this particular time with this particular U.S. 'leader', "HIGHLY unlikely" is probably not a strong enough term.

    What the specific agenda of the Liar-In-Chief IS, may be speculated. But that he HAS one, and that it's detrimental to Israel and the United States and beneficial to the terrorist States, is no longer in doubt. "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" and all that.

    Well, in his case, bad golf and worse 'skeet shooting'. :laugh:
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    Maybe you're not aware, but this information was requested under the FOIA THREE YEARS AGO. The administration had been fighting it's release that entire time.

    Here's your link:
    Legal battle to publish unclassified DOD report on Israeli nukes nears end | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Who pushed to declassify the information, hmm? It seems a favorite tactic of the left is to 'leak' information damaging to their enemies and this info wouldn't have been able to be accessed had it NOT been declassified. But I don't suppose I need to tell you that.
     

    printcraft

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    Who pushed to declassify the information, hmm? It seems a favorite tactic of the left is to 'leak' information damaging to their enemies and this info wouldn't have been able to be accessed had it NOT been declassified. But I don't suppose I need to tell you that.

    This along with the fact that ONLY the part dealing with capability was released out of the entire document.
     

    pudly

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    Iranian Journalist defects sharing negotiation info with the press:

    The US negotiating team is mainly there to speak on Iran’s behalf with other members of the 5+1 countries and convince them of a deal.

    FYI: "5+1 countries" are the nations involved in the negotiations with Iran. The UN Security Council permanent members + Germany. (US, England, France, Russia, China and Germany)
     

    Huzrjim

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    ArcadiaGP

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    Sounds like Iran is getting everything they want out of this "deal"... and Obama is getting the capability to say "we made a deal."

    and oh my god look at this reaction to it

    https://twitter.com/PonsSublicius/status/583683560986562561

    Go ahead. Keep making fun of a deal that promises us peace in our time.

    Hear that folks? Obama brought peace to the middle east. It's all fixed now.

    Iran will only have like 10 nukes instead of 20.
     

    jamil

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    Well, at least he didn't invoke "period" in all his assertions of what Iran can't do. Does that mean he's telling the truth?
     
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