The Nuclear Iran Situation

[Kutnupe14]

Idk but I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the notion of Iran being characterized as reasonable state actors.

A reasonable state actor does not mean it is a "just" nor "honorable" not "trustworthy" actor. It only means that it does not act in ways that should threaten it's continued existence, in comparison to the whole of other nations.

 

[Trigger Time]

I believe I've said it before, and usually stand alone on my island in my bunker with this issue but,...

Iran is a sovereign nation that is recognized by the other nations of this earth. They have an equal claim to put any and all weapons into their arsenal as every other nation on earth may have access to. If France has nuclear weapons so too should Iran. If Russia has chemical weapons so too should Iran.

That said, IF we want to talk about all nations on earth agreeing to ban a certain types of weapon for the good of humanity, that is another discussion, but one I could get behind. Until then, if WE can have it then THEY can have it.

JMO.

Regards,

Doug

Well I believe in killing people who say they want to kill you before they can kill you.
Turn Iran into a parking lot.

 

[Thor]

Sometime libertarinism seems to be libertarianism at the cost of all libertarians lives...because, you know, libertarian purity and what not.

 

[Thor]

Turn Iran into a parking lot.

From space, it's the only way to be sure.

 

[BugI02]

Kinetic bombardment. Orbital strike, now without the messy clean up

 

[NKBJ]

Yep, even got the dinosaurs hiding their bunkers.

 

[AtTheMurph]

Nuclear North Korea doesn't really seem to be a problem.

Nuclear Iran will not be a problem.

Nuclear Russia is not a problem.

Nuclear China, Pakistan, India, Great Britain, France Israel, South Africa.... is not a problem.

Stop buying into all the political BS! No country or it's leadership is suicidal. They only want power! Figure it out.

 

[NKBJ]

Of all the nations and empires whose actions led to their demise, which ones did what was best for their continued existence?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Iran's foreign minister says the US cannot 'expect to be safe' amid rising tensions between the two countries

 

[ghitch75]

Iran's foreign minister says the US cannot 'expect to be safe' amid rising tensions between the two countries

https://www.foxnews.com/world/irans-foreign-minister-warns-against-war-with-his-country

 

[jamil]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/irans-foreign-minister-warns-against-war-with-his-country

“Tehran said it would begin enriching uranium closer to weapons grade if Europe didn't come up with new terms for the deal by July 7.”

It starts with clenching your fists and holding your breath until you get your way. If left unchecked it escalates to this. Spare the rod, spoil the child.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Hope you're sitting down for this headline

U.S. official says "highly likely" Iran behind new tanker attacks in Gulf of Oman

 

[BugI02]

Well, assuming you don't hew to unlikely conspiracy theories like "the Israelis did it to disrupt support for Iran/prompt an attack on Iran", you're left with a pretty short list of suspects; with Iran, the Houthis (which is for all intents and purposes Iran) at the top followed by Ethan Hunt

 

[NKBJ]

Waiting to see if it was torpedoes and whether or not those E15 discussions in Iowa amount to anything.

 

[NKBJ]

So who operates torpedoes and would want to get bombed?
Too bad Ford isn't bringing out the Ranger in 2 door, 4WD and E85 compliant.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

New video shows Iranians removing an unexploded mine from the side of one of the tankers, probably in an effort to hide their involvement.

[h=1]Gulf of Oman tanker attacks: US says video shows Iran removing mine[/h]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48633016

 

[Kutnupe14]

New video shows Iranians removing an unexploded mine from the side of one of the tankers, probably in an effort to hide their involvement.

Gulf of Oman tanker attacks: US says video shows Iran removing mine


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48633016

Japanese tanker, 'eh? I wonder how the Japanese will respond.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Japanese tanker, 'eh? I wonder how the Japanese will respond.

Ironic that Abe is over there now "trying to ease tensions" between Iran and the US.

 

[Jludo]

I don't know much about naval combat, does a boat sneak up on another boat and remove mines from its hull without it noticing? Also does someone intentionally target a specific ship with mines or does this point to Iran wrecklessly putting mines scattershot in a shipping lane?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I don't know much about naval combat, does a boat sneak up on another boat and remove mines from its hull without it noticing? Also does someone intentionally target a specific ship with mines or does this point to Iran wrecklessly putting mines scattershot in a shipping lane?

These particular mines are called "Limpet mines" from what I've read. They're attached (magnetically I assume) to the hull of the ship as opposed to the floating/anchored mines used in shipping lanes. The only reason I can think of to remove an unexploded one would be to try and hide evidence. I think that is what is suspected in this incident.