The Ferguson thread

[Kutnupe14]

Close - It's actually more like 78.8493%.....................but who's counting.

And I'm not even trying to make people mad! I just have a different outlook on things, and not very good at holding my tongue.

 

[churchmouse]

Trying to make everyone like you can get expensive.

Tuff on a bully...........

 

[SSGSAD]

News just reported NO CHARGES .....

 

[KJQ6945]

I'm sure 75% of my posts are reported.

It's good to have goals.

100% You can do it!

 

[Kutnupe14]

News just reported NO CHARGES .....

Huh? What are you talking about?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Justice Department: No Darren Wilson charges - CNN.com

 

[HoughMade]

I think what Kut is getting at is the stats should cause you to look deeper into the department/stats to see why the stats are what they are. Simply taking the stats at face value (as racist or not) is leaving a lot on the table. 80-90% should make you stop and dig into other info to see what is really going on.

I agree with that.

....and the answer could be any number of things, but there seems to be a rush in the media to conclude that they indicate racist law enforcement.

How many of the arrests are of males (my guess, nearly 100%)? Sexism or males actually doing the stuff that gets you arrested?

What are the comparative employment rates? What are the comparative income levels?

People without jobs and with unstable and low incomes seem to get arrested more than those with stable, good jobs. Is that because police choose to arrest poor people or because they actually commit more crime?

There is more here than race that may be at work in these statistics, but since race seems to be the only focus, we're led to conclude that it must be race...and therefore ​racism.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Justice Department: No Darren Wilson charges - CNN.com

Oh, I thought that was already settled

 

[mbills2223]

One of my personal mottos: I don't care what anyone says, numbers do lie.


Seemed relevant.

 

[VUPDblue]

How would you suggest I correct the mistake?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

DOJ: No credible evidence Michael Brown's hands were up, said he likely punched Wilson and then went for gun at car

 

[mbills2223]

How would you suggest I correct the mistake?

I really just wanna see you tazer yourself, so if we could make that happen...

 

[mbills2223]

DOJ: No credible evidence Michael Brown's hands were up, said he likely punched Wilson and then went for gun at car

Wait...so you mean a jury of our peers actually got it right?!? All the evidence and testimony was, in fact, accurate??? Get out of town

 

[pudly]

I really just wanna see you tazer yourself, so if we could make that happen...

We could make it a new Mod initiation practice, right mbills?

 

[churchmouse]

How would you suggest I correct the mistake?

Seems it has been discussed and now we move on. JMHO.

I have seen the jack boots.....

 

[jamil]

I really just wanna see you tazer yourself, so if we could make that happen...

Maybe he'll find stiffy.

 

[HoughMade]

We could make it a new Mod initiation practice, right mbills?

I've been told that here in the enlightened 21st century, hazing of any and all types is as great an evil as there ever has been. It has never, ever accomplished anything positive.

 

[Roadie]

I have only two issues with what happened and go **** yourself isn't one.

First, like I said, another mod should have dealt the punishment. Had that happened, I doubt anyone would have an issue with the ban.
Second, when someone acts inappropriately, apologizes, but does nothing to correct their mistake, I'm left to wonder how sincere the apology is. This has happened three times (that I know of) and only one time did the mod actually do something that showed that he was sorry for his actions. Saying sorry is just lip service. Showing sorry is more meaningful.

If he hadn't said he was the one who actually Banned Hornady, nobody would ever know which of us did it, so.. what difference would it make if VUPD had msgd another Mod and said "Ban him" instead of doing it himself?

Again, what you see happen here, is not all that is going on. People tend to see one incident that was the proverbial "straw" and take that as the sole reason we take action. I can assure you, short of SPAMmers, we rarely hand out bans for First Offenses..

And, as asked previously.. "Correct the mistake" how exactly? unban Hornady until he trolls someone else then ban him again?

 

[mbills2223]

We could make it a new Mod initiation practice, right mbills?

 

[Rookie]

If he hadn't said he was the one who actually Banned Hornady, nobody would ever know which of us did it, so.. what difference would it make if VUPD had msgd another Mod and said "Ban him" instead of doing it himself?

Again, what you see happen here, is not all that is going on. People tend to see one incident that was the proverbial "straw" and take that as the sole reason we take action. I can assure you, short of SPAMmers, we rarely hand out bans for First Offenses..

And, as asked previously.. "Correct the mistake" how exactly? unban Hornady until he trolls someone else then ban him again?

Seems simple to me. If he trolls someone else, he's gone. If he trolls a mod, then another mod should deal with it.

The difference is, the other mod isn't reacting out of spite.