The 2020 General Election Thread

[jamil]

I'm stocking up extra for the election and inviting both sons to stay for a few days, if President Trump wins I think it's going to be worse than the MLK assassination. I remember those riots as a young man, random killings by emotional people and destruction. In 2020 lots of people will be wound unbelievably tight by election night and when they don't get what they want the negative energy will sweep over the country. Things will quite down in time, just like 1968, but you don't want to be one of those people that are caught outside.

I remember the news interviewing a black man who had killed his white neighbor that he knew in a fit of negative emotion. He wasn't really lucid, just kept crying and saying that they had killed his King. This from something that came as a complete surprise as opposed to weeks of intense frenzied stories from media bringing people to a raw emotional edge.

Protect your own and don't be a statistic.

That’s kinda the same sort of negative emotion Liam Neeson described. He was canceled for it. I kinda think violent rioters won’t.

 

[Leadeye]

Why do you limit it to just "if Trump wins"?

I don't think the riots will stop if Biden wins, but the people whipped up to a sharp edge won't have anything to go hysterical over all at once. 1968 was bad, but other than the long corrosion from Vietnam there was nothing even remotely close to the wild frenzy social media and big media are pushing today. Nixon wasn't popular but I think voters saw him as some sort of end to the trouble, particularly after the Democratic convention.

 

[Leadeye]

That’s kinda the same sort of negative emotion Liam Neeson described. He was canceled for it. I kinda think violent rioters won’t.

You see it in small scale sometimes after athletic events, a release of sorts. By the election night big/social media will have pushed the rhetoric to the absolute wall, the President will be the left's equivalent to the antichrist. When he wins, that release will be bad and since I can't have any affect on it, I'll just make sure my loved ones are safely out of harms way for a few days. It's pretty easy when you live as remote as we do.

 

[BugI02]

Now I know what kind of bug you are - a tick!

Ticks aren't bugs, they are arachnids (they have eight legs)

 

[Tombs]

 

[actaeon277]

https://www.theweek.com/5things/933164/biden-says-no-new-taxes-anyone-making-under-400000
No new taxes.


Anybody believe that?

 

[rob63]

https://www.theweek.com/5things/933164/biden-says-no-new-taxes-anyone-making-under-400000
No new taxes.


Anybody believe that?

There may not be any direct taxation, but everyone will pay the price for all of the taxes he wants to impose on businesses. Unfortunately, very few voters will make the connection.

 

[Leadeye]

I've heard that one before, with George Bush 1 saying "read my lips". It would have been funnier if Joe had his VP promise this like George senior.

 

[OakRiver]

https://www.theweek.com/5things/933164/biden-says-no-new-taxes-anyone-making-under-400000
No new taxes.


Anybody believe that?

"If you like no new taxes, you can keep no new taxes"

 

[JettaKnight]

https://www.theweek.com/5things/933164/biden-says-no-new-taxes-anyone-making-under-400000
No new taxes.


Anybody believe that?

For anyone under $40,000 AGI?

Yeah, I absolutely believe that.


The rest of us better fasten our seat belts.

 

[printcraft]

Technically they will just vastly expand existing taxes so it’s really no new taxes.

Factcheck: True

 

[DoggyDaddy]

For anyone under $40,000 AGI?

Yeah, I absolutely believe that.


The rest of us better fasten our seat belts.

$400,000, not $40,000.

 

[JettaKnight]

$400,000, not $40,000.

Oh! Then... hell no, I don't believe that!

 

[jamil]

https://www.theweek.com/5things/933164/biden-says-no-new-taxes-anyone-making-under-400000
No new taxes.


Anybody believe that?

What about after he's been in office for 17 days and they declare him mentally unfit, and then President Harris needs mo money for blo.

 

[printcraft]

What about after he's been in office for 17 days and they declare him mentally unfit, and then President Harris needs mo money to blo.

FTFY

 

[printcraft]

In actual election info, Biden leads Trump by 8 in Michigan, 7 in Wisconsin, 6 in Pennsylvania, and Ohio is a tie. (fivethirtyeight.com)

We're certainly in uncharted territory in terms of measuring any virtual bumps from virtual conventions.

But who knows, the same storm front that rolled in 2016 might strike again.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ections/election_2020/white_house_watch_aug26

 

[T.Lex]

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ections/election_2020/white_house_watch_aug26

Rasmussen remains a curiosity to me. Their polling certainly runs contrarian to most other polls. And, it is consistently contrarian, so it is likely something systemic in how they do it. Which is fine. Being a contrarian voice can be healthy for a system. (Ask me how I know.)

Ultimately, though, it looks like they agree with me. This is still pretty much Trump's race to lose.

 

[chipbennett]

Balanced, as noted by Jetta, by the birthers on the right.

The phenomenon, or even the rhetoric, is not particularly new. There's just an added intensity with the pandemic and BLM issues.

Balanced?

[Insert channeling of Inigo Montoya here]

The two may be comparably fringe in terms of ideology, but in terms of magnitude (number of adherents) and frenzy (actions to which their beliefs agitate them to commit), they are not in any way balanced. There aren't very many birthers, and they are easily avoided if you know how to ignore them on Twitter and Facebook (which is just about the only place you might run into them in numbers).

 

[printcraft]

Rasmussen remains a curiosity to me. Their polling certainly runs contrarian to most other polls. And, it is consistently contrarian, so it is likely something systemic in how they do it. Which is fine. Being a contrarian voice can be healthy for a system. (Ask me how I know.)

Ultimately, though, it looks like they agree with me. This is still pretty much Trump's race to lose.

It was 48 biden - 44 trump last week before the dem convention. FYI

 

[chipbennett]

In actual election info, Biden leads Trump by 8 in Michigan, 7 in Wisconsin, 6 in Pennsylvania, and Ohio is a tie. (fivethirtyeight.com)

We're certainly in uncharted territory in terms of measuring any virtual bumps from virtual conventions.

But who knows, the same storm front that rolled in 2016 might strike again.

I'm going to go ahead and assume that you're intelligent enough to know how much stock to put in those, or just about any other, polls. Anyone who actually believes those numbers probably still believes the Muh Russia conspiracy was real. Trump tied in Ohio? Seriously? What do the fraudsters, er, pollsters, think that people are smoking, to believe that?