The 2020 General Election Thread II

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    DoggyDaddy

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    Kick out the chuds and fasch, and yeah, would be great.

    FYSA: I build AKs for fun, and most likely own more legit firearms than 95% of the fudds on here.

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    Hatin Since 87

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    Pretty sure he'd starting comparing dd214's eventually
    Hopefully that’s as far as he got with comparisons... but with his attitude I could see it going further in attempting to prove his superiority.



    So last night I read there were emergency filings in SCOTUS on behalf of Georgia and Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin soon to follow.
     

    2A-Hoosier23

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    for the INGO MAGA folks...

    Just like you all get a good laugh when a liberal calls you alt-right or a fascist or racist whatever, leftists think it's hilarious when you call them liberals or call pacifist libs "radical leftists".

    Understand this:

    Liberalism and leftism are not the same.

    Liberalism and Leftism are diametrically opposed. Leftists often say something similar to this idea: "Liberalism is necessary to enable fascism."

    Leftists probably hate liberals more than you do.

    Here's the kicker:

    If you think a "radical leftist" of any variety can be anti-gun you know only the brand of "Leftism" your government (yes, that same government that you're stockpiling arms against in case of tyranny), mainstream media, and public school indoctrination told you about. government, media, and liberal education indoctrination. The big 3 often rightly complained about on these forums. But still, all too often, these same sources are relied upon by their very critics for information about "leftism"...

    There is no leftist that doesn't believe in the necessity of using arms and violent force for revolution. Every single prominent leftist author in history is categorically for the use of arms in the hands of the common people to fight against the establishment elite.

    If they call themselves a leftist but don't believe in using violence to achieve their goals, or support liberal/Democrat/any type of gun control, they are simply a liberal/Democrat cosplaying as a leftist even though they haven't read a single page of OG Marxist theory which quite bluntly states at almost every possible moment that the workers must defeat and kill the establishment elite... Using guns.

    This is not a "no true Scotsman" thing. This is not a purity test. This is simply a matter of definition. Some will say my (partial) definition of leftism here isn't accurate. Thing is, it's not my definition. It's drawn directly from the core ideas espoused by the most prominent socialist, communist, Marxist, and Marxist-Leninists throughout history. Take it up with them.

    You wanna beat the antifa rioters and tankies? I think it would help to actually learn the basics of what they believe so one understands their motivation. The antifa folks are totally different from the Biden supporters, even if many think otherwise.

    And please don't just read the Communist Manifesto and call it a day. The Manifesto was pretty much written for the least literate and least educated proletariats to get a very basic understanding of Marx's and Engels' communist theory. So read Marx's Capital. Read Lenin's What Is To Be Done. For a more modern version of similar ideals Read Kwame Nkrumah's Neo-Colonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism. Read Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth. Don't care for wordiness?Read Kwame Ture's Stokely Speaks: From Black Power to Pan-Africanism. Good ole plain proletarian language there.

    Not much of a reader? Listen to some Kwame Ture (formerly known as Stokely Carmichael) speeches. Plenty of stuff on YouTube. You don't have to agree with a single thing he or anyone else I've listed says, but at least you'll know a little more about the massive gaping difference between liberalism and leftism. You'll be better armed with knowledge to fight for your beliefs.

    One really easy way to spot a liberal: If someone is advocating for reforming the current system they are functionally a LIBERAL and cannot, regardless of self-identification, be seriously considered a leftist.

    If someone is advocating for total revolution via destruction of the current neoliberal system they are certainly not a liberal and they could be, depending on what type of system they advocate to replace the current one, a leftist.

    Better explained here: [video=youtube;Iw_r2eeB-Xo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw_r2eeB-Xo&list=PLb7Hp544JnsRbabwgjLFNTMZEkJMXklV0&index=2 1[/video]

    Also here, Fred Hampton telling LINO's (leftists in name only) they better commit a revolutionary act before they consider themselves his ally: [video=youtube;_7F8RfnDhkA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7F8RfnDhkA&list=PLb7Hp544JnsRbabwgjLFNTMZ EkJMXklV0&index=36[/video]

    Some more related stuff...

    Kwame Ture on the use of guns:
    [video=youtube;_7F8RfnDhkA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7F8RfnDhkA&list=PLb7Hp544JnsRbabwgjLFNTMZEkJMXklV0&index=36[/video]

    Fred Hampton on guns:
    [video=youtube;uadVQuVUETU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uadVQuVUETU&list=PLb7Hp544JnsRbabwgjLFNTMZ EkJMXklV0&index=60[/video]

    Kwame Ture again... notice a difference in rhetoric between him and so-called "radical leftist politicians" here?

    [video=youtube;zb5H4gpMouk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb5H4gpMouk&list=PLb7Hp544JnsRbabwgjLFNTMZ EkJMXklV0&index=73[/video]


    Final note, tying it all together:

    No one who supports or likes Joe Biden in any way can be seriously considered a leftist. They are LINO liberals. If you all can understand the idea of a RINO Republican that supports gun control then you can surely understand this... so just call em libs, libtards, demoncrats, whatever you like, and you'll be much more accurate.
     

    BugI02

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    for the INGO MAGA folks...

    Just like you all get a good laugh when a liberal calls you alt-right or a fascist or racist whatever, leftists think it's hilarious when you call them liberals or call pacifist libs "radical leftists".

    Understand this:

    Liberalism and leftism are not the same.

    Liberalism and Leftism are diametrically opposed. Leftists often say something similar to this idea: "Liberalism is necessary to enable fascism."

    Leftists probably hate liberals more than you do.

    Here's the kicker:

    If you think a "radical leftist" of any variety can be anti-gun you know only the brand of "Leftism" your government (yes, that same government that you're stockpiling arms against in case of tyranny), mainstream media, and public school indoctrination told you about. government, media, and liberal education indoctrination. The big 3 often rightly complained about on these forums. But still, all too often, these same sources are relied upon by their very critics for information about "leftism"...

    There is no leftist that doesn't believe in the necessity of using arms and violent force for revolution. Every single prominent leftist author in history is categorically for the use of arms in the hands of the common people to fight against the establishment elite.

    If they call themselves a leftist but don't believe in using violence to achieve their goals, or support liberal/Democrat/any type of gun control, they are simply a liberal/Democrat cosplaying as a leftist even though they haven't read a single page of OG Marxist theory which quite bluntly states at almost every possible moment that the workers must defeat and kill the establishment elite... Using guns.

    This is not a "no true Scotsman" thing. This is not a purity test. This is simply a matter of definition. Some will say my (partial) definition of leftism here isn't accurate. Thing is, it's not my definition. It's drawn directly from the core ideas espoused by the most prominent socialist, communist, Marxist, and Marxist-Leninists throughout history. Take it up with them.

    You wanna beat the antifa rioters and tankies? I think it would help to actually learn the basics of what they believe so one understands their motivation. The antifa folks are totally different from the Biden supporters, even if many think otherwise.

    And please don't just read the Communist Manifesto and call it a day. The Manifesto was pretty much written for the least literate and least educated proletariats to get a very basic understanding of Marx's and Engels' communist theory. So read Marx's Capital. Read Lenin's What Is To Be Done. For a more modern version of similar ideals Read Kwame Nkrumah's Neo-Colonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism. Read Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth. Don't care for wordiness?Read Kwame Ture's Stokely Speaks: From Black Power to Pan-Africanism. Good ole plain proletarian language there.

    Not much of a reader? Listen to some Kwame Ture (formerly known as Stokely Carmichael) speeches. Plenty of stuff on YouTube. You don't have to agree with a single thing he or anyone else I've listed says, but at least you'll know a little more about the massive gaping difference between liberalism and leftism. You'll be better armed with knowledge to fight for your beliefs.

    One really easy way to spot a liberal: If someone is advocating for reforming the current system they are functionally a LIBERAL and cannot, regardless of self-identification, be seriously considered a leftist.

    If someone is advocating for total revolution via destruction of the current neoliberal system they are certainly not a liberal and they could be, depending on what type of system they advocate to replace the current one, a leftist.

    Better explained here:

    Also here, Fred Hampton telling LINO's (leftists in name only) they better commit a revolutionary act before they consider themselves his ally:

    Some more related stuff...

    Kwame Ture on the use of guns:


    Fred Hampton on guns:


    Kwame Ture again... notice a difference in rhetoric between him and so-called "radical leftist politicians" here?



    Final note, tying it all together:

    No one who supports or likes Joe Biden in any way can be seriously considered a leftist. They are LINO liberals. If you all can understand the idea of a RINO Republican that supports gun control then you can surely understand this... so just call em libs, libtards, demoncrats, whatever you like, and you'll be much more accurate.

    What if any motivation I might have to discern between liberals who want to destroy what I love and leftists who want to destroy what I love is primarily for the purposes of targeting

    Do you have a program so I can tell them apart
     

    foszoe

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    What if any motivation I might have to discern between liberals who want to destroy what I love and leftists who want to destroy what I love is primarily for the purposes of targeting

    Do you have a program so I can tell them apart

    No way you read, watched that post completely before replying!
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    Who was that clown, looking back at some of his past posts he was pretty rude to a lot of good members, not sure how he made it this far.

    Not sure. When I saw he’s been here since 08 and 500 posts, then suddenly pops up here with his rant I knew what he was doing.


    Any bets on how long before he makes an alt account?
     

    BugI02

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    No way you read, watched that post completely before replying!

    I read the whole post, but no way i'm interested in joining the Communism book of the Month Club and I hate watching anything on video that could be presented as text. Plane crashes, racing accident, giant explosions on the Beirut waterfront - YES!

    Twenty minute or more videos about or by obscure fringe characters which I could skim in 2 minutes if they were text - NO!

    The only time I've even watched a bit of Trump on video was to hear an unedited version of something he supposedly said, and even then I would skip right to the mark

    It's who I am
     

    2A-Hoosier23

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    I read the whole post, but no way i'm interested in joining the Communism book of the Month Club and I hate watching anything on video that could be presented as text. Plane crashes, racing accident, giant explosions on the Beirut waterfront - YES!

    Twenty minute or more videos about or by obscure fringe characters which I could skim in 2 minutes if they were text - NO!

    The only time I've even watched a bit of Trump on video was to hear an unedited version of something he supposedly said, and even then I would skip right to the mark

    It's who I am

    I'll send you an extra copy of Stokely Speaks, most of this little book is actually just transcripts of his speeches, including some of those videos I posted. So it's exactly what you prefer. It's a heavily annotated copy but you can skim it in probably 20 minutes or less and keep it. PM me if interested. If not, no offense taken
     

    actaeon277

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    LOL! You all are so very, very lost in the sauce. If you think Biden is a member of the Left, is supported by the Left, or has a Leftist agenda, I invite you to actually log off fox.com, turn off OANN or whatever it is these days, and actually listen to real leftists. You're find we're also enemies of neo-libs and libs, you just have no idea beyond your own red, craggy noses.

    Well, I see you're a shooter, but I guess I'll say it anyway.
    With your understanding of politics, you probably should have some check your shoelaces.
    You've attempted to analyze someone from a one paragraph statement.
    And while doing that, you came nowhere near a fact or discussion of the subject matter.

    You might want to up the volts before your next treatment.
     
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