The 2020 General Election Thread II

[Ingomike]

Notice the words I bolded. The test ballots are random, they don't put in well we want 75% Biden 25% Trump or whatever. Yes they will produce a "known outcome" but not because someone programed the outcome in, but because the machine keeps track of what it prints.



Not a lack of curiosity, I'm curious about a lot of things from the election. The military/CC agency databases are online 24/7/365, lots of time and opportunity to hack into them. Not to mention that the voting machines and tabulators aren't supposed to be hooked up to the web. Yes I've seen the reports about the modems, but they weren't for those machines. IIRC they were for the compilers or something like that, they took the results from the local precincts and such fed them into the compiler which transmitted the results to a central location. Yes that could be hacked in relatively short time they are online, but it's much harder to hack into something with a limited window. But even if it was, the original results are still available. Think of very long range shooting, you have to hit a 12" target 1000yrds away with an iron sighted .22lr. You have 2 hours to do so, or you have 6 months of 24/7 shooting. Which one do you think would be easier to accomplish?

The machines do fractional voting and can be programmed to do 1.2 per vote and .8 for the opponent for example.

They are Internet connected and the leak of the Michigan audit verified that. (Imagine that, finally a leak for conservatives). The leak also says that it shows evidence of communication with other servers out of the country. FYI, this is the audit the Michigan SS was trying to keep under seal yesterday. I saw purchase orders for a Michigan county and modems and Internet were spec'd. An Atlanta poll worker testimony indicated, under oath, that Dominion was connected to her machine to do something.

I believe you are correct that it has been, since 2014, against federal election law to have voting machines connected to the Internet, that issue is about to blow up I believe. It is certainly getting a lot of buzz in social media...

 

[Ingomike]

There couldn't be foreign interference in our election, could there?

[h=1]Dominion’s Ties to UBS, China[/h]A Swiss bank that sent big money to Dominion voting systems’ parent company before the election has ties to China’s intelligence and military agencies, according to publicly-available financial records.


The New York-based subsidiary of Swiss bank UBS sent $400 million to Dominion’s parent company Staple Street Capital III, L.P. on Oct. 8, 2020.


Follow the money!!!

 

[BugI02]

I'll send you an extra copy of Stokely Speaks, most of this little book is actually just transcripts of his speeches, including some of those videos I posted. So it's exactly what you prefer. It's a heavily annotated copy but you can skim it in probably 20 minutes or less and keep it. PM me if interested. If not, no offense taken

Is there a link to online content as opposed to a physical book?

I'm seeing it on SCRIBD and similar but don't want to install the app

I can get the hard copy from my library system, but showing 226 pages. Not sure I would devote that much time but might get it to see if it can capture my attention. Is that the one book you would most recommend, and if so do you know of a link where I could read a sample of it for online without requiring an app? Doesn't have to be the whole thing, just want to see what I'm getting into

 

[BigRed]

Went back through some of his latest posts... just market place and generally being a massive dick.

Unlike Rookie, I'm not going to miss him.

Seemed a typical progressive to me.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

The machines do fractional voting and can be programmed to do 1.2 per vote and .8 for the opponent for example.

They are Internet connected and the leak of the Michigan audit verified that. (Imagine that, finally a leak for conservatives). The leak also says that it shows evidence of communication with other servers out of the country. FYI, this is the audit the Michigan SS was trying to keep under seal yesterday. I saw purchase orders for a Michigan county and modems and Internet were spec'd. An Atlanta poll worker testimony indicated, under oath, that Dominion was connected to her machine to do something.

I believe you are correct that it has been, since 2014, against federal election law to have voting machines connected to the Internet, that issue is about to blow up I believe. It is certainly getting a lot of buzz in social media...

I saw the photo posted about the machines being able to do weighted voting, is that what you are talking about when you say fractional voting? If so as I stated there are various kinds of weighted voting, including ranked choice voting which is an option on Dominion voting machines.

Do you have a link to the leak? I haven't seen it and would like to read it.

 

[Ingomike]

I saw the photo posted about the machines being able to do weighted voting, is that what you are talking about when you say fractional voting? If so as I stated there are various kinds of weighted voting, including ranked choice voting which is an option on Dominion voting machines.

Do you have a link to the leak? I haven't seen it and would like to read it.

The data itself has not been published that I know of, just independent media reports from those that have looked at it.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

The data itself has not been published that I know of, just independent media reports from those that have looked at it.

Do you have a link to those reports?

Also the do you know the type of machine the poll worker testified about? Or perhaps a link to her testimony?

 

[Tombs]

The lack of curiosity from many self proclaimed Trump voters is baffling to me, I get Biden voters wanting this over in a hurry, but I am ticked to believe that votes were stolen. This is far bigger than a credit card hack. Why is it such a stretch to think an election can be hacked when military databases of private if not classified data have been hacked, the major credit agencies have been hacked many times. Are we that fat and happy or sedated with physical and technological opiates to even care that it is in the realm of possibility that foreign governments interfered with our elections?

They're defeatist who would probably vote for Mitt Romney if the GOP told them to.
Part of the old wing of the party that thought the Iraqi invasion was a good idea.

They're also the ones who won't get this joke.

I have a joke about trickle down economics, but 99% of you won't get it.

 

[Ingomike]

Do you have a link to those reports?

Also the do you know the type of machine the poll worker testified about? Or perhaps a link to her testimony?

Parler is your friend, or maybe Gateway Pundit. I read so much I just cannot remember where I saw those. Sorry. Machines were Dominion as I know it.

 

[Ingomike]

Fascinating research...

[h=4]Why I did this research.[/h]On 11/19/2020, at the RNC, Sydney Powell alleged that our vote has been improperly altered by Dominion. RNC press conference, 11/19/2020



I don’t know how to process these allegations. They sound so extreme and far-fetched that they are easy to blow off as ridiculous.



On the other hand, HBO has an excellent documentary called Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America’s Elections.I’ve seen it and can recommend. Here is a link to a review at Mother Jones.


I decided I should substantiate or disprove what I was hearing. My goal was to write an article either showing “nothing to see here” or explaining why more auditing/investigation should occur.


I recommend we audit the machines.

https://fraudspotters.com/statistics-about-dominion-election-fraud/

 

[edwea]

There is a sea change happening in American politics. The democrat elites were so desperate to win this election that they had to cheat on such a monumental scale that it would be nearly impossible to hide and they knew it. I believe that there are reasonable, patriotic, honest democrat party members that finally have to acknowledge their party has departed from them. While they may have "won*" the election, they have revealed their true colors to the American people and will be worse off for it. I see a massive red wave heading our way.

 

[Kutnupe14]

There is a sea change happening in American politics. The democrat elites were so desperate to win this election that they had to cheat on such a monumental scale that it would be nearly impossible to hide and they knew it. I believe that there are reasonable, patriotic, honest democrat party members that finally have to acknowledge their party has departed from them. While they may have "won*" the election, they have revealed their true colors to the American people and will be worse off for it. I see a massive red wave heading our way.

Your post is logically troublesome for me. How can the Democrats blatantly cheat, and then there be a massive red wave to follow that up? Wouldn’t the Democrats simply just cheat again?

 

[jamil]

Your post is logically troublesome for me. How can the Democrats blatantly cheat, and then there be a massive red wave to follow that up? Wouldn’t the Democrats simply just cheat again?

If we’re just talking about logic, there’s only so much that cheating can accomplish. Sure, you could have the press try to publish fake polls showing Democrats way ahead so that people won’t be surprised when the Democrat landslide happens. You can change some votes using algorithms. You can manufacture ballots signed by dead people. But there is limit to the scale of cheating possible before it becomes noticeable to a majority of people. So if there were a massive Trump train big enough to overcome the cheating, ya. It could happen. The problem isn’t the logic, it’s the truth values in the statement. Is it really evident that there would be such a red wave that would overcome the cheating that is possible? I would not count on that. In four years is enough time for “Patriots” to have died off and ideologues to come of age. I’m doubtful that the world will be saner.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Your post is logically troublesome for me. How can the Democrats blatantly cheat, and then there be a massive red wave to follow that up? Wouldn’t the Democrats simply just cheat again?

You're right. They didn't break the election laws. They broke the laws of physics counting votes for Biden at a speed several times the mechanical limitations of the tabulating machines. They must be as powerful as God!

 

[Slapstick]

Your post is logically troublesome for me. How can the Democrats blatantly cheat, and then there be a massive red wave to follow that up? Wouldn’t the Democrats simply just cheat again?

Why would it troublesome? Cheaters may get away with it initially but once you know how they cheated then you would know what to look for and put in safe guards to curb the cheating the next time. Kind of like casinos, they have safe guards against known forms of cheating and when a new one is discovered they put in additional safe guards for that.

 

[jamil]

Why would Democrats put in safeguards if they plan on cheating?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Why would Democrats put in safeguards if they plan on cheating?

Illusion.

 

[foszoe]

But these cheaters are much smarter than their opponents, they will only cheat better.

Why would it troublesome? Cheaters may get away with it initially but once you know how they cheated then you would know what to look for and put in safe guards to curb the cheating the next time. Kind of like casinos, they have safe guards against known forms of cheating and when a new one is discovered they put in additional safe guards for that.

 

[KG1]

Why would Democrats put in safeguards if they plan on cheating?

Are the Democrats in favor of putting in safeguards?

 

[buckwacker]

Are the Democrats in favor of putting in safeguards?

The answer to that question would be quite illuminating, wouldn't it?