The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[ATM]

If he wasn't such a seriously flawed individual he might just be able to revel in his victory and try to bring people together and get about his business of trying to govern. He might just try to emphasize those things where he actually has accomplished victories and stop stomping on his message. That is if he wasn't' such a seriously flawed individual.

Let's quit giving exaggerated and illegitimate power over others to individuals then, shall we? Most, if not all, are seriously flawed and barely manage to tend to their own choices.

There haven't ever been any elected to any political positions that come without flaws, despite your preferences.

 

[Dddrees]

Let's quit giving exaggerated and illegitimate power over others to individuals then, shall we? Most, if not all, are seriously flawed and barely manage to tend to their own choices.

There haven't ever been any elected to any political positions that come without flaws, despite your preferences.

Please, Trump with regards to how he conducts himself and what he says is an aberration. Please stop trying to normalize him by trying to say he somehow reasonably compares to most other people who simply have some faults and make some mistakes,

 

[2A_Tom]

Hillary is flawless.

 

[ATM]

Please, Trump with regards to how he conducts himself and what he says is an aberration. Please stop trying to normalize him by trying to say he somehow reasonably compares to most other people who simply have some faults and make some mistakes,

I'm not trying to normalize Trump, I'm trying to normalize his place among flawed humans. Humans should not be given such power to rule over other humans.

This left/right political nonsense simply distracts from the obvious (exactly as designed).

 

[Dddrees]

I'm not trying to normalize Trump, I'm trying to normalize his place among flawed humans. Humans should not be given such power to rule over other humans.

This left/right political nonsense simply distracts from the obvious (exactly as designed).

So he belongs in the seriously flawed group of individuals. If that's your point then I guess I can go with that. There are some seriously flawed individuals out there. But his behavior is unacceptable, so there's no way we should accept what he is doing.

Good luck with that power thing though. Have a hard time thinking your not going to find this to be the case almost anywhere you go. I'm not saying I'm not for limiting some power, but unless you rule your own island your always going to get some of that.

 

[Dddrees]

Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill.

Trump signs Russia sanctions bill - CNNPolitics.com

 

[ATM]

So he belongs in the seriously flawed group of individuals. If that's your point then I guess I can go with that. There are some seriously flawed individuals out there. But his behavior is unacceptable, so there's no way we should accept what he is doing.

Good luck with that power thing though. Have a hard time thinking your not going to find this to be the case almost anywhere you go. I'm not saying I'm not for limiting some power, but unless you rule your own island your always going to get some of that.

His behavior is only unacceptable in that he gets to make too many decisions for you. If he had no power over you, you wouldn't be even slightly obsessed with his every thought and action.

I'm not looking for anywhere or anyone to rule. I'd be awesome at it, but that's not the point.

 

[jamil]

And it's really too bad we just happen to have elected a guy who see's his Presidency as a reaffirmation that he's the most perfect brilliant man in the world.

Well, that's an opinion. I think the thing that's too bad is that this was the only choice we had. Hillary? Pfft.

#****2party

 

[Dddrees]

Well, that's an opinion. I think the thing that's too bad is that this was the only choice we had. Hillary? Pfft.

#****2party

Yeah, and it's an opinion Trump actually said out loud. LOL

 

[Dddrees]

His behavior is only unacceptable in that he gets to make too many decisions for you. If he had no power over you, you wouldn't be even slightly obsessed with his every thought and action.

I'm not looking for anywhere or anyone to rule. I'd be awesome at it, but that's not the point.

Like I said, I think you need to find an island that you can rule.

 

[Alpo]

Well, that's an opinion. I think the thing that's too bad is that this was the only choice we had. Hillary? Pfft.

#****2party

 

[ATM]

Like I said, I think you need to find an island that you can rule.

Yeah, that doesn't really work any more as a response to what I wrote.

Think of a creative reply. Challenge yourself.

 

[jamil]

Yeah, and it's an opinion Trump actually said out loud. LOL

It does not appear you're keeping up with your own conversation. What do you think applies to what?

 

[Dddrees]

Yeah, that doesn't really work any more as a response to what I wrote.

Think of a creative reply. Challenge yourself.

Well ifall you can say is you want know rulers, I got news for you.

 

[jamil]

<shudder/>

 

[Dddrees]

It does not appear you're keeping up with your own conversation. What do you think applies to what?

Come on.

Trump himself often claims how great he is. Oh, and what is that I'm president and your not cr**. Good thing if he's actually not saying it as you might wish to claim that he has a cabinet willing to humiliate themselves in front of the American people to do it for him.

 

[jamil]

His behavior is only unacceptable in that he gets to make too many decisions for you. If he had no power over you, you wouldn't be even slightly obsessed with his every thought and action.

I'm not looking for anywhere or anyone to rule. I'd be awesome at it, but that's not the point.

Like I said, I think you need to find an island that you can rule.

Yeah, that doesn't really work any more as a response to what I wrote.

Think of a creative reply. Challenge yourself.

ATM has a point, though I wouldn't carry it to the same conclusion he does. If you're just fine with giving the politicians you agree with all the power to enact all the things you agree with, has the thought not occurred to you that maybe someone might get into office who will use the same power you voted to give your guy, to enact all the things you don't agree with?

Limited government has the benefit of working best in a diverse society because a diverse society will not agree on what the government should do. If you're okay with your guy imposing your ideals on everyone else, you're a hypocrite to complain about the other side getting a turn with the big stick you voted for.

 

[Dddrees]

ATM has a point, though I wouldn't carry it to the same conclusion he does. If you're just fine with giving the politicians you agree with all the power to enact all the things you agree with, has the thought not occurred to you that maybe someone might get into office who will use the same power you voted to give your guy, to enact all the things you don't agree with?

Limited government has the benefit of working best in a diverse society because a diverse society will not agree on what the government should do. If you're okay with your guy imposing your ideals on everyone else, you're a hypocrite to complain about the other side getting a turn with the big stick.

I think you forgot to quote the remark where I said something about limited government. So why don't you go back and include that and then we might be better to proceed from there.

 

[Dddrees]

Trump rolls out plan to curb legal Immigration.

Initially it sounds like it's more bluster than ever having a chance of going anywhere. Certainly going to fire up the base anyway. But then again this may just be a diversion cause he can't get that wall. LOL



https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...oduces-immigration-reform-raise-act/23061539/

 

[ATM]

I think you forgot to quote the remark where I said something about limited government. So why don't you go back and include that and then we might be better to proceed from there.

You don't sound even slightly interested in government, just Trump.