The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[jamil]

For me my remark had nothing to do with politics. I just find free speech to be more dear.

Practically speaking, free speech is inseparable from politics.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

I know this is a gun forum and what I'm about to say is akin to heresy but guns aren't the only thing. There are other important things as well.

That is true, there are other things, but Hillary would have appointed a justice to overturn Heller and MacDonald, and liberal federal judges would have fast-tracked cases to do just that. That would not be "nibbling around the edges" of a right and far from "sensible gun control"... it would be denying that the Second Amendment is an individual right... only a National Guard armory right.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Sorry, but I see free speech being more important. You wouldn't have it if you weren't capable of defending it, but somehow I see free speech much more dear.

And we would have lost First Amendment rights under Hillary as well. The SCOTUS justice she would have appointed would have overturned Citizens United, which both Obama and Hillary opposed. For all of the rhetoric, please remember that Citizens United was about the government banning an anti-Hillary MOVIE!!! The First Amendment (barely) won, Obama and Hillary lost.

 

[indiucky]

For all of the rhetoric, please remember that Citizens United was about the government banning an anti-Hillary MOVIE!!! The First Amendment (barely) won, Obama and Hillary lost.

Lot's of folks don't realize that....It ran just once and IIRC one of the Wahlburg's was in it....
Neat documentary on the back story...

From IMDb..

"There's more to the story of the Clintons and 9/11. Over two nights -- September 10-11, 2006, just four months before Hillary announced the exploratory committee for her original presidential campaign, ABC aired The Path to 9/11, a riveting and factual docudrama. This acclaimed and balanced movie faulted two administrations -- Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. But fairness was not what Hillary wanted. Screenwriter Cyrus Nowrasteh told me he had expected the customary DVD distribution. But the Clintons, fearing the impact of DVD release during her campaign, successfully pressured Disney, which owns ABC, to bury the movie. This is a portion of a news article that originally appeared: Hillary?s Path Back to 9/11 | Frontpage Mag This article originally appeared in The Huffington Post Hillary's Path Back to 9/11 | HuffPost This article was written by Arnold Steinberg from Huffington Post and was legally licensed through the NewsCred publisher network."

 

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[Kutnupe14]

And we would have lost First Amendment rights under Hillary as well. The SCOTUS justice she would have appointed would have overturned Citizens United, which both Obama and Hillary opposed. For all of the rhetoric, please remember that Citizens United was about the government banning an anti-Hillary MOVIE!!! The First Amendment (barely) won, Obama and Hillary lost.

Uhhh... why would Obama have lost? He actually won, and may have benefited from from this.... reminding this was 2008, before he even took office.

Kut (thinks you can't blame EVERYTHING on Obama)

 

[bwframe]

Breaking: Democratic IT aide Imran Awan arrested at Dulles while trying to flee the US

 

[jamil]

That is true, there are other things, but Hillary would have appointed a justice to overturn Heller and MacDonald, and liberal federal judges would have fast-tracked cases to do just that. That would not be "nibbling around the edges" of a right and far from "sensible gun control"... it would be denying that the Second Amendment is an individual right... only a National Guard armory right.

But it's more than just that. The kinds of justices that the Clinton's appoint are Ruth Ginsburgs. Progressives. People who think the constitution is outdated. People who think that the problem with America is that our system doesn't give enough **** away as positive rights. Guns are but one important issue of many that would be in a worse condition under a Clinton 2.0 admin.

 

[jamil]

Breaking: Democratic IT aide Imran Awan arrested at Dulles while trying to flee the US

This should really be a bigger story than it is. This is potentially a way bigger threat than what is alleged with all the Russia stories.

 

[jbombelli]

I know this is a gun forum and what I'm about to say is akin to heresy but guns aren't the only thing. There are other important things as well.

Without guns there is no free speech. That's the nature of government and power, with a helpless populace. You might want to read some history books.

 

[miguel]

Breaking: Democratic IT aide Imran Awan arrested at Dulles while trying to flee the US

[video=youtube;ZXhuso4OTG4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXhuso4OTG4[/video]

 

[bwframe]

Democratic IT Staffer Arrested As He Tried to Flee the Country | Mediaite

...The group of IT staffers were also being suspected by authorities of putting sensitive House information on the “cloud” and possibly exposing it to others.

Awan and his family are of Pakistani descent, and according to Democrat sources, their ethnicity “is a factor in the attention they’re receiving.”

For months, Wasserman Schultz refused to allow U.S. Capitol Police to have access to her laptop as part of the investigation. She is now in negotiations to sharing her device with the authorities...

 

[jamil]

Democratic IT Staffer Arrested As He Tried to Flee the Country | Mediaite

...The group of IT staffers were also being suspected by authorities of putting sensitive House information on the “cloud” and possibly exposing it to others.

Awan and his family are of Pakistani descent, and according to Democrat sources, their ethnicity “is a factor in the attention they’re receiving.”

For months, Wasserman Schultz refused to allow U.S. Capitol Police to have access to her laptop as part of the investigation. She is now in negotiations to sharing her device with the authorities...

If we had an honest press this would be front page news.

 

[bwframe]

Another Donnelly vote for Obamacare:

Indiana legislators react to Senate vote that advances GOP health care bill | Fox 59

 

[ghitch75]

If we had an honest press this would be front page news.

as it should be....

 

[2A_Tom]

Dog bites man is not news = Democrats.

Dog bites man is news = Republicans and anyone else the left wants to take down.

 

[Dddrees]

Trump: Transgenders can't serve Military "In Any Capacity".

 

[bwframe]

Democratic IT Staffer Arrested As He Tried to Flee the Country | Mediaite

...The group of IT staffers were also being suspected by authorities of putting sensitive House information on the “cloud” and possibly exposing it to others.

Awan and his family are of Pakistani descent, and according to Democrat sources, their ethnicity “is a factor in the attention they’re receiving.”

For months, Wasserman Schultz refused to allow U.S. Capitol Police to have access to her laptop as part of the investigation. She is now in negotiations to sharing her device with the authorities...

https://www.legistorm.com/person/Imran_Awan/10491.html

Imran Awan, Congressional Staffer - Salary Data

Rep. André Carson (D-IN) 01/03/17 02/08/17 Shared Employee $2,000.00

 

[jamil]

Trump: Transgenders can't serve Military "In Any Capacity".

Rationality is probably the best way to react to Transgenders in the military. It is a mental condition in which affected people are uncomfortable with their genitalia. So it's a question of whether their disorder inhibits their and other soldiers' ability to do their jobs.

The thing that determines their fitness for service should not be their or our feelings, but should be their usefulness and ability to carry out their duties. If Trump's decision is based on a recommendation by military leadership who have done the necessary evaluations, there's no reason to complain. I suspect this decision is just as politically motivated as Obama's was to let them serve.

 

[Dddrees]

Repeal and Replace fails so it looks like Repeal Only is up next.

So do you think they'll get their act together if only they had another seven years?


Not only that but do you think they'll ever be able to do anything with Tax Reform or the Infastructure.