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    Birds Away

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    As always, turn to the MSM for more on these and other Obama administration scandals and you get crickets.


    I wonder if we will ever truly know how massive the corruption of that administration truly was.

    Not with the current media in place. They (most all of them) have been complicit in covering up "O"s Bravo Sierra.
     

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    Unfortunately the ones in the Republican Party that seem to be speaking up and speaking the truth are getting out. All the others seem to be to scared to speak the truth. Unfortunately those who support the ridiculousness of the President also can’t quite seem to understand how dangerous this is for the country either. Although they may not have been his words Bush is really the one that hit the major points squarely on the head the other day.

    Welcome back, D.

    So olease describe for me what is this truth that Republicans are afraid to speak, and especially what specific danger you fear.
     

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    Welcome back, D.

    So olease describe for me what is this truth that Republicans are afraid to speak, and especially what specific danger you fear.

    I may not like him for a number of reasons but President Bush did it so much better than I could. Did you happen to catch his speech? If you missed it you realy should have seen it. I’m sure if you google around you would be able to find it.
     

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    Welcome back, D.

    So olease describe for me what is this truth that Republicans are afraid to speak, and especially what specific danger you fear.

    For me, it's the truth that our current president... by temperament, ability, understanding, and motive, is wholly unfit for the office he occupies.
     

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    For me, it's the truth that our current president... by temperament, ability, understanding, and motive, is wholly unfit for the office he occupies.

    Not only that but things he represents and how he goes about getting there. The fact that he’s so devisive and actually does what our enemies would like to do. How repugnant and dangerous he really is.
     

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    Not only that but things he represents and how he goes about getting there. The fact that he’s so devisive and actually does what our enemies would like to do. How repugnant and dangerous he really is.

    Yeah, like selling our enemy 20% or our uranium....oh, wait.
     

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    Yeah, it was way better when we had a slick talker who robbed us blind while we weren't looking.

    I haven't seen any proof of this, but I'm open to hearing how we were robbed blind. And in comparison, the current occupant of the WH is robbing us blind as we ARE looking.... his family's refusal to move into the WH, foreign money spent in his hotels, jacking up membership fees, merchandise sales, a tax plan where the rich (like him) benefit the most, family members using their connections to gain foreign investors.
     

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    Yeah, like selling our enemy 20% or our uranium....oh, wait.

    Why is it when someone brings up a subject that is hard to discuss, address, or makes them look bad that some one will divert to something else. DT’s. really perfected this I must say. He really made that whole NFL thing work for him. As he couldn’t seem to do anything else right. Gee DT can you attack another Gold Star Mom as well.

    Sorry but DT represents the worst common denominator so well.
     

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    As always, turn to the MSM for more on these and other Obama administration scandals and you get crickets.


    I wonder if we will ever truly know how massive the corruption of that administration truly was.
    Do you realize that it was the WaPost that broke the story? I know I was amazed when I saw the story.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.36115059fee8

    The other liberal outlets have all reported on the story as well. I haven't read a lot of their analysis though.
     

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    Yeah, like selling our enemy 20% or our uranium....oh, wait.

    In all of this folks only focus on the POTUS sitting in the big boy chair. Very little effort goes into looking back at the Bravo Sierra put on us by all those who took the oath. By comparison Trump (regardless of how he is doing it) is doing his best to live up to his campaign promises. We are not hearing about all the cuts in agency's that were bloated and sucking funds with zero return. What we do hear about is the silly crap that I am sure would have been rife in the "O" white house. We just did not hear it.
    Bill Clinton pretty much single handedly stuck a pin in the housing bubble he helped generate. Not much if anything is ever said about that. Those actions set up the crash in 06/08. But I digress.
     

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    Why is it when someone brings up a subject that is hard to discuss, address, or makes them look bad that some one will divert to something else. DT’s. really perfected this I must say. He really made that whole NFL thing work for him. As he couldn’t seem to do anything else right. Gee DT can you attack another Gold Star Mom as well.

    Sorry but DT represents the worst common denominator so well.

    No, people on the left are deathly afraid of what he "might" do or has the "potential" to do. I was merely giving an example of a horrible, treasonous act that might fit the bill.
     

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    Yeah, like selling our enemy 20% or our uranium....oh, wait.

    Did you know that, by law, none of that uranium could be moved out of the nation? The way I've seen this information most often framed, is that this uranium would be moved out of the nation, and used to construct weapons, which obviously isn't true. That's not to say the deal wasn't extremely shady... because it was, but I think it follows more along the lines of the "Russian Reset,"
    more so than some sinister plan to profit off of selling uranium for weapons to Russia.
     

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    In all of this folks only focus on the POTUS sitting in the big boy chair. Very little effort goes into looking back at the Bravo Sierra put on us by all those who took the oath. By comparison Trump (regardless of how he is doing it) is doing his best to live up to his campaign promises. We are not hearing about all the cuts in agency's that were bloated and sucking funds with zero return. What we do hear about is the silly crap that I am sure would have been rife in the "O" white house. We just did not hear it.
    Bill Clinton pretty much single handedly stuck a pin in the housing bubble he helped generate. Not much if anything is ever said about that. Those actions set up the crash in 06/08. But I digress.

    How does doing his best to be devisive and lying about every possible thing under the sun and constant tweeting about a Gold Star Mom not telling the truth have anything to do with keeping campaign promises?
     

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    For me, it's the truth that our current president... by temperament, ability, understanding, and motive, is wholly unfit for the office he occupies.

    Well. He only set the bar lower. I’m more outcome oriented. As long as he doesn’t use the IRS and DOJ to punish the political opposition, and take bribes to give other countries special deals and access to government, as long as what he does is legal, I may wish his character behavior was way better, more honorable, but outcome is what mostly matters.

    Of course his temperment affects his ability to bring about a favorable outcome. It’s a significantly contributing reason why he couldn’t kill the Obaminable crony “healthcare” law.

    But. Crass as he is, dishonorable as he behaves, Trump isn’t the biggest threat facing the US. The biggest threat is partisanship. And to whatever extent this administration is culpable for increasing it, the previous administration was at least as culpable.
     

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    In the meantime they just can’t address the original comment about how spot on the former President Bush speech was. It hit the mark on some many different things.
     

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    Well. He only set the bar lower. I’m more outcome oriented. As long as he doesn’t use the IRS and DOJ to punish the political opposition, and take bribes to give other countries special deals and access to government, as long as what he does is legal, I may wish his character behavior was way better, more honorable, but outcome is what mostly matters.

    Of course his temperment affects his ability to bring about a favorable outcome. It’s a significantly contributing reason why he couldn’t kill the Obaminable crony “healthcare” law.

    But. Crass as he is, dishonorable as he behaves, Trump isn’t the biggest threat facing the US. The biggest threat is partisanship. And to whatever extent this administration is culpable for increasing it, the previous administration was at least as culpable.

    Oh, and DT isn’t doing his mostest and bestest to make it even worse. Wake up people.
     
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