The 2016 General Election Thread

[jamil]

All these old people running for President make me think we're going to see a(nother) Presidential death in our lifetime.

It would probably be too uncouth to mention preferences for natural causes and timing.

 

[Huzrjim]

As someone that has also expressed wariness at the "unknown variable" that is Trump.... Doesn't Biden sound like a safer option? He's maybe 10% of what Clinton is. He's incredibly weak. He'd be opposable by a Republican congress. And he'd be there 4 years, max... where we can all start over again.

Clinton is awful. We don't want that.
Trump is awful. We don't want that.

Given the option of Biden? The safe, comfortable, and practically harmless Biden? I want that. Maybe that's just me... but I'd rather have some sort of status quo respite before getting into this again. But of course, SCOTUS is the wildcard. I don't know how aggressive a Biden would be with his appointee.

Biden? SCOTUS would not be a wildcard - solid Dem majorities for the next 20 or 30 years. Hello Background checks for everyone, goodbye Heller and look for a reinstatement of the AWB. Remember, Uncle Joe says you only need a shotgun, preferably a double-barrel. No reason for pumps or autos to hunt or for home defense.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It would probably be too uncouth to mention preferences for natural causes and timing.

You mean like a disease causing agonizing death next week?

 

[jamil]

You mean like a disease causing agonizing death next week?

I think the agony should be exactly proportional to the consequences of their actions and policies. And any time soon will do. Preferably before the election.

 

[Leadeye]

We deserve better candidates, it wasn't always this way.

 

[flatlander]

My opinion. I don't think he wants to win. He knew how to be competitive and possibly win the primary only to toss Clinton a softball to the WH. I personally think Clinton wins huge. If she adds Warren as VP choice I think it will be close to a historic landslide.

This is exactly what I've been saying. Agree 100%

We're screwed.

Bob

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Wait, isn't this illegal?

So far, confirmed Trump sent e-mails asking for money to all MPs in UK, Iceland, Australia, Denmark. Unconfirmed Canada

Maybe he's just outright trying to throw the race and be disqualified?

Trump Now Hitting Up Iceland MPs for Cash

 

[T.Lex]

It'll probably be clarified that the donations were for a charity which would then transfer funds to another entity to then go to a PAC, without the candidate's knowledge, which would then buy air time.

Or maybe he'd just take the money and blame the media for playing Gotcha.

 

[Thor]

Well, he saw what a great deal that foundation is for the Clinton's, which he donated to. He probably wants in on some of that action.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

PPP actually included SMOD2016 in the poll.

Poll: 13 percent prefer meteor hitting earth over Clinton, Trump | TheHill

 

[ArcadiaGP]

CNN interviewed Cory Booker, who is apparently a VP consideration for Clinton.

Booker confident Clinton won't be indicted - CNN Video

You might remember Cory Booker as the guy that has an imaginary friend, T-Bone. A person he created to tell stories of the hard life in the street.

Just another liar.

Cory Booker's Imaginary Friend | National Review

 

[stchas]

He should be confident. She was never going to be indicted.

 

[T.Lex]

When the AG says she's going to go along with whatever the professional law enforcement and prosecutors suggest, there's a good chance she already knows the suggestion will be something she's comfortable with.

 

[IndyDave1776]

When the AG says she's going to go along with whatever the professional law enforcement and prosecutors suggest, there's a good chance she already knows the suggestion will be something she's comfortable with.

Perhaps in the sense that she has already told them what to suggest?

 

[T.Lex]

Perhaps in the sense that she has already told them what to suggest?

Actually, I don't think so. There's enough past practice/prosecutorial discretion to justify not indicting. FTR, there's also enough evidence to justify indicting. But, that's why prosecuting fairly can be a very difficult process.

My point is that she probably wouldn't need to risk the morale and PR implications of making the decision herself if she already knows they are going to suggest no indictment.

I think, if she thought they would recommend indictment, her statements would be along the lines of "moral and legal obligation" to make the decision herself - she'd be trying to justify autonomy. She's not doing that.

This way, she is setting the stage to claim the political high ground by claiming that she didn't politicize it.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Check out the "Clinton E-mail" thread for some big news regarding the FBI investigation.

Is it time for Joe Biden to jump in?

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...-state-dept-raises-flags-118.html#post6611924

Edit: Nevermind. **** everything. The world sucks.

 

[T.Lex]

I think this will not really influence the General Election. Trump will be able to make great hay over this, and shore up the Republican base. It won't really change HRC's base, nor the middle. As if there is much middle this year.

Granted, an indictment would've been a big influence, but I don't see the lack of indictment as changing things. I do not have the impression people were waiting for this to decide upon their preferred candidate.

 

[Birds Away]

Corruption reigns supreme in these United States.

 

[T.Lex]

Corruption reigns supreme in these United States.

Is there an expectation that Trump will fight corruption? Is there something in his past conduct that supports that notion?

 

[Birds Away]

Is there an expectation that Trump will fight corruption? Is there something in his past conduct that supports that notion?

How did you come up with that from my post?